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    • In response to a couple of thoughts given...   It's my wife's daily driver and the miles on it are either road trips or the daily 25 miles to and from work which totals a bit over 110,000 miles.  Mostly highway miles and good quality county roads; it never goes off road unless you consider my daughters gravel drive.   The tie rods, bushings, upper strut mounts, and ball joints are in good repair and have been ruled out.     While the power steering fluid is filthy, there are no leaks and the level is full without having needed any additional added.   The noise is intermittent and not significant when it does occur.     My belief is that it isn't the power steering pump.  Correct me if my thinking is flawed, but if the pump was failing I believe that it would be doing so across the entire steering range, where this vehicle is only exhibiting at extreme left under power or left when turning from a stop.
    • years ago my daughter had a caravan that had a steering gear that was acting up and she added a bit of fluid to it before telling me about the problem,it  ended up being a seal in the steering unit letting the power steering fluid to drain into the drivers side boot by the time I seen it the boot was holding it all in but was ballooned out to the max till it finally blew, then she had a used one installed, she didn't say anything about strange noises and no loss of function till it finally went out
    • Don't know how many miles on such as newer ride or type of road conditions you drive on..... BUT . I would much more suspect ball joints or a failing power steering pump.
    • Mine started to leak as well as different noises I got a used one from the wreckers and the issues went away. It lasted almost 200000 miles before it gave out the used one had only 48000 miles on it.
    • I'm having issues with the wife's 2019 Dodge Journey GT 3.6L AWD that I hope the board can provide some insight.     With the exception of turning left from a stop or at very low speed and when backing the vehicle the steering is working as would be expected.  In the described circumstances the steering reacts as if the vehicle has no power steering, likewise there is a slight pop that is heard.  If turns are wide or at speed it functions as would be expected.  It is not losing power steering fluid, but the fluid is filthy.  Boots are intact and in good condition and all other suspension parts are tight.  In attempting to diagnose I also looked at the struts, and they are not leaking and there's no apparent play in mounts.  When I put the vehicle on jack stands and try to replicate the problem there is no issue, so it appears that this only occurs when the full weight of the vehicle is on the tires.     My thoughts are that the rack and pinion is failing, but don't want to head down that rabbit hole until I have some confirmation from folks that are smarter than me or have experienced a similar issue.  
    • With the crazy price of oil they may be cutting corners to save money, or it's just laziness. I assumed screw on cartridge filter; forgot it's 3.6 internal cartridge. Your 2013 has a diff filter than 2014-2020, keep that in mind, not compatible.   But inside filter cartridges have markings on them.  Plastic top cap can be easily removed and reinstalled with new filter, torque is 25 NM. OEM I think are wix made, one of the better manufacturers.  This new Mopar I have showes >PAG-GF30< printed on top seal. The other non oem shows aftermarket company and Thailand. Time to play detective.                        
    • Thanks John,  No need to look at the filter. I have a two hour dash cam video That clearly shows  The tech removing the access  cover but the filter cap was never removed.  As to the lug nuts, the only shop that has performed tire rotation is the CDJR Dealer's shop I've used since I purchased the 2013 Journey off-lease in 2015 at 13,000 miles. The service manager under the current owners, is good at deflecting customer's opinions of the current problem.  I had the front breaks rotors and calipers replaced at an independent repair shop (that came highly recommended) 8/19.  As I sat in the customer lounge, I could hear an impact wrench failing to loosen the lug nuts. After about three minuets of that, the owner/mechanic asked me to enter the shop saying the lug nuts are over tightened. The Journey is on the ground and he had a 3 foot break over bar  and he put his full weight on the bar to loosen the lug nut. He said to tell the service manager to hand tighten the lug nuts and  hand torque to specification next time I have CDJR rotate the tires. That opportunity came 9/16 when the time to change oil light came on. I asked to talk to the shop manager and related the problem servicing the front breaks and the recommendation to hand torque  to spec.  He said that's what we do .. run em down with impact wrench and hand torque to specification. Maybe that's the plan, but does it happen? The evidence I witnessed on the front break service and the fact that the CDJR techs were unable to loosen the rear lug nuts after 30 minutes with two additional techs trying and failing says they were over tightened on the last successful tire rotation.
    • so did you return to have the lug nuts changed out ? and if so show these pictures to the service MANGER NOT the service writer,,,but as others have stated NO you need a large socket to loosen the filter cap same as when tighten it up you can tighten it enough by hand BUT then need to turn ity about 3-4 more turns till the o ring makes contact and then stop.....most dealerships use the newest techs or wash/detail folks for the oil changes
    • Thanks Larryl,  That's my understanding as well. I have a two hour dash cam video from my drop off 14:00 to pick up at 15:58.  The oil filter access cover was removed but No tools are seen to remove the filter cap, remove filter and replace. Oil was drained and filled, filter was never touched The service ticket lists  oil and filter part no's
    • I always take the engine cover off to remove my filter....But I need a socket to back off the tension on the housing to remove the filter....
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