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What is build date, might be on the driver door sticker. Dealer running your vin might be able to tell you which part your car should have in it. Part needs to match what the ecm controls are programmed for or car will never run correctly.
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My daughter in law's 2.4 has cheap iredium plugs, Denso I believe, for last 3 years, approx 60k kilometres. Haven't noticed any issues. What is supposed to happen??? All the coils are even still original at 125k kms.
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I have a Ram, they are 6 or 8 speed auto tranny and cylinder deactivation on the hemi. Journey is a 4 speed moving maybe 3-4 hundred pounds less weight. Sits high up like most suv pushing wind as well. You said 10, I assume 10 litres per 100 kilometres. So 2.645 US gallons per 62.14 miles or 23.49 MPG per US gallon. Sounds close to normal on crappy regular grade Canadian summer gas with 87 octane and probably still some ethanol content. The 2.4 often have cheap copper core spark plugs from factory, check them and use double platinum NGK plugs instead.
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Direction Control malfunctions
John/Horace replied to Neto's topic in Electrical, Battery & Charging
Another common failure item at your milage on the 2.4 four cylinder is the CPS or crank position sensor. You are having an intermittent problem; this electrical sensor can cause stalling and no starts like you are experiencing. It’s a wear item and only around $25. I would use a dealership part on a critical item like this. The codes that showed up on the reader scan included this sensor as suspect. Lightning bolt symbol and throttle codes would have pointed to worn/dirty throttle body assembly. It will likely be failing soon as well, still cheaper than changing vehicles. Good luck.- 12 replies
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Is this the piece.
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Warning SCAM selling parts.
John/Horace replied to AOXOMOXOA's topic in Buying, Leasing, Ordering & Competing Products
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Welcome to the site. If sound wasn’t there in park when revved up I would have said wheel bearing. Removing surpentine belt was also a good move. Hydraulic whine could be from the fluid pump and torque converter inside tranny. So fluid and filter like 5rebel9 is saying. These transmissions are used in the big Promaster cargo vans until last year, so they aren’t necessarily fragile. You could remove drive shaft and drive car to see if it’s related to front ptu. Long shot. How many miles on vehicle.? There is a cheap version of Atf+4 and then a more expensive full synthetic one, try the better one.
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How much black goo on transmission magnet is too much?
John/Horace replied to DJDiggler's topic in Engine & Transmission
Up until 2021 the Promaster van used this same 6 speed tranny, before going to a ZF 9 speed. That’s 9,000 pounds full loaded weight rating. I don’t like the way it shift’s personally, but it should have the capacity to do more than what the Journey throws at it. There are utube links with people with 500k on their original Promaster unit. -
How much black goo on transmission magnet is too much?
John/Horace replied to DJDiggler's topic in Engine & Transmission
Looks maybe slightly more than I had on wife’s Journey at similar milage. It’s from the clutch packs wearing I believe. The color and smell of fluid matters more, no strong burned smell and not very dark are better indicators. Are you towing with the 3.6 very much? Dump and fill still leaves a lot of old fluid in the torque converter. With a Princess auto/Harbour Freight siphon pump you can remove through the fill tube about 3 litres of oil. I do that a few days after doing pan and filter. ATF4 is not that pricy fortunately. Ours has never showed any codes yet, but has started to hesitate to down shift some times. Going to change the torque converter clutch solenoid behind the front cover like others have done. There are links in this site about it. Car at 220k kms now. Oem Mopar part is only about $35. Five minute dry, pan gasket sealant can be used over rtv. -
Car accident may have damaged stuff. Check power steering reservoir level. Cardboard on ground will catch the substance so you can see color better. Tranny oil cooler looked like it was crunched. Power steering has lines at the front, they could be damaged too.
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Left turn signal fast flash
John/Horace replied to JourneyManErik's topic in Glass, Lighting, Mirrors, Sun Roofs & Wipers
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Left turn signal fast flash
John/Horace replied to JourneyManErik's topic in Glass, Lighting, Mirrors, Sun Roofs & Wipers
Hyper flash is almost always a burned out bulb. I have even seen adjoining running lights cause hyper flash issues. Check all your bulbs. -
‘17 DJ - Rear A/C turning on/off frequently, self adjusting temp
John/Horace replied to SashaP's topic in Climate Control
Maybe temperature sensor in back is flaky. Not sure how it over rides an off setting on front screen. Try finding relays for rear hvac and swap them around. Some people just reseated a few gang plugs and it returned to normal. I don’t have rear hvac in wife’s Journey. Not experienced with it. There are a lot of posts about it on the site. -
After searching around , I think there is an electric clutch for decoupling. The variable part comes from the fluid itself; temperature varies viscosity which changes the amount of grab or power transfer. To work with traction control etc the awd has to be able to be decoupled, this detail turns up on various sites. The site below wouldn’t let me cut paste properly with iPad, but you get the idea. If you remove viscous coupling there a few bolts to remove its bell housing, which would show electric clutch assembly. Like OP is saying, self rebuilding is not going to be an option it seems. He has the most experience on this site with this issue…and he was nice enough to respond!!! Availability All-wheel Drive Availability Type Rear Differential ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Alternator Battery SUSPENSION Front Rear SXT, Crossroad, Limited, R/T and R/T Rallye with 3.6-litre V6 Six-speed, adaptive electronic control and electronically modulated torque converter clutch 4.127 2.842 2.283 1.452 — Upshift 1.570 — WOT kickdown 1.00 0.690 3.214 0.95 3.16 2.06 CVP, SE Plus, SXT, Crossroad and Limited Crossroad, R/T and R/T Rallye Electronically controlled coupling (ECC) with variable torque output Open 160-amp — Standard on all Journey models 525-amp maintenance-free Independent MacPherson strut, coil spring over gas-charged shock absorbers, stabilizer bar with isolated suspension cradle Multi-link independent with coil springs, link-type stabilizer bar, gas-charged shock absorbers and isolated rear suspension cradle
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‘17 DJ - Rear A/C turning on/off frequently, self adjusting temp
John/Horace replied to SashaP's topic in Climate Control
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You should be able to pull drive shaft and front coupler and still drive the car until you get parts. A shop could also do this for you. The electrical plug on diff needs to stay connected or you will get a dash light. Give the output shaft seals on both sides of diff a close look. Mine both started leaking and had to be replaced at 150k kms. If leaking now a whole rear used diff might make sense.
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Retired Millwright mechanic, four years of engineering school, but I do work on cars a lot. The clutch fans on older cars where viscous driven and could be refilled. I am pretty confident an awd coupler cannot be refilled. Transmission shops can be a good source of info, they often diffs and transfer cases for dealerships. Lots of dealers don’t touch transmissions any more either. Canadian coupler for $2,100. https://parts.motorcitychrysler.ca/p/52822281/68058066AB.html US site call it a viscous coupler, not a coil controlled electric clutch, viscous driven is fluid imo. https://www.dodgeparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-axle-bdorc-viscous-unit-kit-68058066ab
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And that's all for now, Folks! (A goodbye)
John/Horace replied to NavalLacrosse's topic in Owner Impressions
How about a volt update. Which of the four coolant radiators had to be replaced. This is a gen 2 model correct.? My brother has had to swap a lot of tires, and the 12 volt AGM battery. Fine other than that. -
This to maybe. https://www.partshub.ca/2009-2020-dodge-journey-radiator-support-assembly-bolt-in-ch1225218-2.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwq5-WBhB7EiwAl-HEkoKEfPTnOU3nn4oh3TDZndu_e0wU7JMvPpdWPynhv5YZjALpWP_0yBoCskcQAvD_BwE
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upper rad support , auto part recycler can be a good source. https://www.partshub.ca/chrysler-town-and-country-2011-2016-radiator-support-upper-tie-bar-ch1225251v.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwq5-WBhB7EiwAl-HEkhP4lgAckvh7y7ym9MudyD0kGAAKuzwbrJo-dowXPGILqCg4Uw5uERoCv24QAvD_BwE
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I have an unproven theory about the clicking in the dash of the Journey. A few years back cars often got a mold smell from water sitting in the evap coil. There was even special sprays to get rid of smell. I think the clicking is the actuator moving to fresh air vent position when the car is sitting. To avoid the mold smell accumulating in the a/c coil in dash. A two Journey family, maybe only one on site. ?