Windancer

Welcome aboard from another "Canuck" who lives in the heart of the Canadian Prairies. Terry

Mschmidt33, I agree with Derekmclain the manual is probably more accurate (but that is me also ) Wouldn't be the fist time a website was wrong :P . Terry

Thank you, glad to be here! There is quite a few Journeys where I live in Canada. It seems to be a very popular vehicle here. We certainly have different desingnations of the vehicle though from what you have there. We have no Lux and the R/T is the top of the line trim. As many of you know I have a 2010 R/T and it only came in AWD, which in my case was fine. When I had a convertible 2005 Convertible PT Cruiser, I was a member of that forum and it was super busy and there was lots of posts. Terry

I am curious, has anybody tried out the new mobile phone apps on their 2011 Journey? See them at http://www.dodge.com/en/dmobileapps/ Terry

Thanks, I will certainly keep an eye on it. I notice that you have 4 recorded fill ups on it. On another note do you find the onboard computer reflects what My Fuelly says. I know the older one in my Caravan was way low when compared to my actuals. Terry

That is what I would like to establish, "Is the Pentastar V6 is that much more fuel efficient than the 3.5?" Terry

Fortunately I haven't paid for an oil change since 1991, that was the year I bought my first dodge from my current dealer. He is a small town deatership (45 miles away) and he tends to know everybody by their first name. One of his promises is to give you free oil changes for the life of the vehicle. I get one at 3 months or 5000kms. I normally take the 3 months due to the little amount that I usually drive. To me it is worth the 45 mile drive as they keep an eye on my car. I am currently on my 6th vehicle from this dealer and he hasn't let me down in 20 years. He is wonderful, I guess that is one of the reasons I continue deal with him. He is very good with warranty work, I get my vehicle in promptly and effciently, it is done right the first time. Obviously this is my opinion, YMMV. Terry

FleshWound has provided a more real world example of a Journey's gas mileage,. These are my stats as taken from http://www.fuelly.com which is vastly different than the sticker on my car. As you can see I've tracked my car since day 1 of owning it, http://www.fuelly.com/driver/windancer/journey nearly 12,000 kms. and 35 fills ups.The US equivelents are what My Fuelly said...... sorry I wasn't going to get out a calculator and convert everything. The first 10 or so tanks were mid grade gas and the remainder were regular. My driving consists of 70% city and 30% highway. I do get very good gas mileage on the highway but it goes down drastically as soon as I hit the city driving. As many of you already know, I have a 2010 loaded up R/T Journey. The reason I shared this is I have nothing to hide and show some proof of the gas mileage. Don't get me wrong, I love my car, unfortunately it Does Not get the implied gas mileage on the sticker. As I mentioned in a previous post, that is done under very ideal conditions. My Fuelly is a very easy, not to mention FREE way of accurately keeping a log of you gas mileage. There are 2 main things from what I posted that are significant. One is the gas mileage in the real world is much different that what you see on the car's sticker and two, we pay a much higher cost of gas than our American friends south of the border. I really would be interested in the gas mileage of the 2011 Journey. As a side note when I filled up yesterday, the onboard computer said 17.3 kms, in reality it was closer to 19.0 l/100 kms. Just something to keep in mind. Regards Terry Metric (Canadian) Total Fuel-ups - 35 Avg km/Fuel-up - 348.5 Avg Price/Litre - $1.05 Avg Price/Fuel-up - $56.90 Total km Tracked - 11,847 Last Price/Litre $1.21 (+$0.08) Avg Price/Litre -$1.16 (30 Days) Avg Price/km - $0.16 Avg MPG - 15.2 Best km/Fuel-up - 667.1 12/09/10 Best Price/Litre - $0.79 06/09/10 Total Spent 2011 - $592.85 US Equivelents Total Fuel-ups - 35 Avg Miles/Fuel-up - 216.5 Avg Price/Gallon - $3.98 Avg Price/Fuel-up - $56.90 Total Miles Tracked - 7,362 Last Price/Gallon - $4.58 (+$0.30) Avg Price/Gallon - $4.38 (30 Days) Avg Price/Mile - $0.26 Avg L/100km - 15.5 Best Miles/Fuel-up - 414.5 12/09/10 Best Price/Gallon - $2.99 06/09/10 Total Spent 2011 - $592.85

Where did this info come from? I'm certainly not saying it wrong. Just curious that's all :D Terry

I am inclined to believe you, because if the part shortage in Japan dodge probably felt it best to temporarily discontinue certain models If there is a certain car on a dealer's lot I might be inclined to take it because you probably won't get one with all your options by orderering it. :o . I guess my fully loaded 2010 R/T just beacame somewhat more valuable. :D Terry

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Hey there Mainmango; There is an old saying "don't count your chickens before they hatch" :D I sincerely hope you get the new fascia. Terry

Should being the operative word. I really hope the 2011's get much better gas mileage than the 2009 and 2010 models. According to my window sticker on my vehicle, Transport Canada rates my vehicle as 13.6 l/100 km. or 21 mpg City and 8.7 l/100 or 32mpg. This of course is done under controlled conditions which are ideal but in the real world it is very diiferent, as we all know. As you can see my car is averaging 16 l/100 kms. over 60 fill ups and close to 21,000kms. or just over 13,000 miles for my neighbours south of the 49th. See http://www.fuelly.co...ndancer/journey . My gas mileage has been all over the map. We have had a very difficult winter here, lots of snow, very cold temps etc. thus necessitating longer warm ups and poorer overall driving conditions, which hurts my overall average. I hope that this mileage will increase will now that the car has over 11,000 kilometers or approx. 6.600 miles on it and is somewhat "broken" in.. According to the people on My Fuelly that have Dodge Journeys (http://www.fuelly.co...r/dodge/journey) my gas consumption is a little high and that could be attributed to the way I drive, there is 10 cars there and it goes from a low of 11.1 to my high of 15.4 if you check my personal mileage, you will see some very different numbers. (http://www.fuelly.co...cer/journey/log) If you look at the January 31st of this year number of 13l/100 kms., this was attained on a cold (-30° C or -22° F) highway drive of about 255 kms/150 miles. If you look at the September 28th, 2010 number of 9.3 l\100 kms. this was attained on a trip from Lethbridge to Regina which is about 650kms.\400 miles. Incidentally I remember the onboard computer said 8.8 l\100 kms. If you look at the September 12th number of 10.8l\100 kms. this again was attained on a trip from Lethbridge to Regina. Now anybody who knows the Prairies that is a very flat road, 70% is a dual lane highway. I tend to drive at 120kph or about 74mph which will suck a little more fuel. As you can see by my fuel log (http://www.fuelly.co...cer/journey/log) I am a creature of habit, I fill up at the same station most of the time. The way this station is setup (left or right fuel doors) I have only 3 pumps that I can use and I pretty well use the same pump all the time. It is because of this, that my numbers are quite accurate, ie: the same pump shuts off the same each time. I may "round" it off to the next high dollar amount but I am fairly consistent in my fillups. As I said before I really encourage people to use my.fuelly.com so that we can compare our gas mileages. Unfortunately there is no 2011 Jouneys at (http://www.fuelly.co...r/dodge/journey). Maybe you can be the first. I just realized you have to be logged in to see some of the links I put in my post. Sorry.......

I realize that the 3.6 is quite different from my 3.5 but I'm not sure if it will be that much more fuel efficient On the highway the onboard computer is much closer to actual mileage than around town. Why wait till summer? I encourage you to use the My Fuelly site now, then you can compare to other cars that are the same as yours. Not to mention it is very accurate, I used to use a very intricate Excel Spreadshheet to keep track of my gas mileage. I found the My Fuelly site does it all and is much easier. Terry

I've said it before, gas mileage is not a strong suit of the Journey. You can click on the "My Fuelly" logo near the bottom of my post and see what I have gotten over 60 fuel ups. While I don't drive it hard, I don't baby it either. I put nearly 5000 kilometers on my 2010 R/T on a trip last fall to northern Vancouver Island to go kayaking and I probably averaged 11l/ 100 kms. In all fairness I was doing 120 kms/hr. through the mountains and my car was new. It has 11000 kilometers on it now and I would suspect the mileage is better. Don't go by what the onboard trip computer in the car says because it has always been much better than the actual mileage. Just my .02 worth. Terry

This is what I have on my 2010 R/T. Here's what the dealer installed hitch looks like:as well as the receiver . My apologies to ckl fo reusing his photo. Terry

This is the vertical receiver hitch that was (supposedly) OEM that was installed on my Journey. Going by earlier illustrations, I have about a 3 1/2" rise. Is this correct? The bottom of the receiver is the same height as the underside of my rear bumper. As you can see I can't turn mine over . Terry

You got me thinking about this, so I went out to the garage and measured my OEM hitch. It is 18" to the top of the ball. What do you mean by the rise? Sorry I'm not familiar with that term. On my ball there is a 1/2" lip above the receiver and then there is about 1" from that lip until where the ball starts. If I'm not real clear what I am measuring I should be able to post a photo. Terry

I put them on my 2010 R/T and while they look great, they are a weeeeee bit expensive for what you are getting in my books, :rolleyes: I think they are over $125 for the 4 of them. Terry

I've said it before, gas mileage is not a strong suit of the Journey. You can click on the "My Fuelly" logo near the bottom of my post and see what I have gotten over 34 fuel ups. While I don't drive it hard, I don't baby it either. I put nearly 5000 kilometers on my 2010 R/T on a trip last fall to northern Vancouver Island to go kayaking and I probably averaged 11l/ 100 kms. In all fairness I was doing 120 kms/hr. through the mountains and my car was new. It has 11000 kilometers on it now and I would suspect the mileage is better. Don't go by what the onboard trip computer in the car says because it has always been much better than the actual mileage. Just my .02 worth. Terry

If it is any consolation to you, I too have a little 'slop' when I use the OEM vertical receiver hitch on my 2010 R/T. So far no problems, I have only towed my boat 3 times though. I haven' tried any shims etc. Let us know if you come up with a solution. Terry

As UPmedic mentioned, "I have never heard of this before." I think it goes without saying "Have it throughly checked out by your dealer" as there is something that is draining your battery. Terry

Been there several times for work, I am quite familiar with your town. I hope you enjoy your Journey as much as I have. Terry