bramfrank

OK, so I haven't owned a Journey for almost 2 years and I have 1 each of the 2 8" display radios sitting on the shelf, taking up space. The RE2 is the non-Nav radio and the RB5 is the Nav radio. Located in Montreal (Canada), I COULD ship from Champlain, NY if someone in the US wants one or the other. They were both tested when I got them and I assume (but cannot in good faith guarantee) that they are both working today - but they certainly ought to be. Make a reasonable offer for one or for both and you can have the factory nav. The TGM is the version that works with the XM traffic subscription if you want real time traffic on the display. If I can't get enough money to justify the time and trouble involved they get recycled. I'm posting this on the Journey group on Facebook as well.

You don't get Bluetooth from the radio, that HASW a module, located under the dash and above the steering column. But unless you have right steering wheel and clockspring it won't do you much good - you also need the buttons. As to not seeing the navigation icon? You don't have a navigation radio.

The answer is 'no'. Very different devices/

Let's start with the quick one; The radio is contained within the TGM. The TGM also handles the CD (DVD in the Nav radios), backup camera, heated seats and steering wheel, interface to the Blurtooth module as well as the air conditioning. There are 2 basic versions of the TGM for the 8.4" display - one with Nav and one without. There is nothing beyond the unlocked TGM (and the satellite antenna) to get the Nav version of the TGM to work - as I wrote, if you didn't have automatic air conditioning that feature won't work either. No feature codes need be enabled to get the Navigation running (you DO need the feature codes enabled if you want to use a backup camera). So, the only obvious answers as to why your unit is not displaying the navigation screen with any particular TGM are most likely that it either isn't a nav-equipped TGM, the Nav board inside might not be working (though I believe that the entire RB5 radio would lock up at the initialise screen if that was the case) or there is something strange in your wiring harness (which I doubt, because as far as I know all of the navigation functionality is contained within the TGM itself.

If you have a functioning 8.4" display it doesn't have to be changed to install the RB5 TGM. Note that if you upgraded from the 4.2" display and did not have Siruius/XM radio and did not install the satellite antenna (which provides for both GPS and Sirius/XM) you will need to do so before the NAV will wor,

I no longer have a Journey (which is why I have my spare RB5 nav and my original RE2 non-nav 8.2" TGMs for sale), but I never had issues updating the mapping using the methods found here and elsewhere on the web - it IS a bit picky about the USB key you use, mind you. And to confirm what was posted above, yes, if you are adding a backup camera you DO have to get the sales code enabled for it to work. Navigation does NOT need activation, though the TGM (the radio/nav/touchscreen controller) requires an unlock code to make the new radio work in your vehicle.

To confirm, the unlock code generated by the dealer's software requires the VIN (and the buyer surely knows the VIN of his own vehicle). It is NOT based on the radio part number, but rather the serial number and the VIN of the vehicle it is being installed in. I have heard that there is a backdoor that lets certain people get the unlock code based solely on the radio s/n, But the part number never enters into it.

Actually, to generate the unlock code you need the radio serial number and the VIN of the vehicle it is being INSTALLED in. Make me a reasonable offer.

I have an RE2 (non-nav) and an RB5 (nav) 8.4 inch radio module (just the radio module) on my shelf - I am located in Montreal (Canada) - make me a reasonable offer for either one or both and pay the shipping.

Your VIN doesn't work because your vehicle didn't come with the nav. Google for a 2013 or later Journey that has navigation for sale on the web and use the VIN from that. But you don't need to PAY for a map update. The instructions on how to do it yourself can be found in this forum. . . . . .

What makes you think you need updates? CTP17 works fine. As long as your unit isn't suffering the 'can't unlock maps' issue you are good to go except that the system will periodically tell you that the maps are out of date, in which case you can live with it, or you can either buy an update or hack one.

More likely to be a developing battery issue than the alternator. You can get an inexpensive replacement, fully installed from Sam's Club for something like $115. Change the cheap stuff first.

If you download the installation manual for the OEM backup camera for the 2011-2013 models it has the pinout, because the vehicle wasn't prewired. This link will get you that manual. Good luck: https://s3.amazonaws.com/rp-part-images/assets/98fe84911b8f2acb751e9a23cfbbfd97.PDF

You need a new BT module.

Does the 2013 version have more? Have you tried using one of the partial maps?