bramfrank

Because everything works well with what I've got - they haven't added new features, so . . . if it ain't broke, why fix it?

I am running CTP13 . . . . I had 15 in, but downgraded to get my unit to update.

I don't know if the unit uses a basemap, but the gmappprom file and the supplementary files required are on the order of 5 gigs.

Your OSM map can be loaded as the main map by simply renaming it . . . . but you won't have any of the advanced features that Garmin's maps provide, like POIs and such because the open source map simply doesn't have them. The good news (depending on your definition of 'good', I suppose) would SEEM to be that the gmapprom.img file (or one of the accessory files, like the 3D or JCV file) is corrupted and reloading the entire map set OUGHT to clear the fault. I REALLY wish someone near me would let me have a crack at reloading his 'broken' radio. If, indeed all that is wrong is that there is some corrupted data in one of the map files, the fix ought to be very simple - reload the map, which is what I want to try. But I know that the device is quite picky when it comes to file updates and even the factory DVD can be a problem - I couldn't get the update DVD to read in mine (though it plays music and movies just fine) - and dealers are clueless, so they'd try once and just give up. In my case I had to copy the data from the DVD to a memory stick - and even then I tried three before I could get it to run to completion.

If your primary map is corrupted, installing a supplementary map will not clear the problem. But perhaps if you name it for the primary map (gpsmapprom, I believe, because I am not near my PC) rather than the supplementary it will overwrite the bad file. This was what I had planned to do if someone local had given me access. You might also want to consider downloading a small map, so the update takes less time. If that works you can replace it with what you need.

There have been a number of riders in a group I host on Facebook who have done extensive testing on the platform who report that in fact 10% ethanol negatively impacts mileage by about 16% and that they get about 2% lower MPG with high octane than regular, both with ethanol.

I find it interesting that a bunch of people complain about their units failing specifically a week before the end of the first year of ownership . . . . . I wonder if there's an interaction between the expiry of the Sirius subscription and the memory corruption. Then again, my unit has been in and out of subscriptions, so I don't think that's the problem. As to failures; Some fail, most clearly do not, or they'd have stopped offering them a long time ago - they are sensitive to warranty costs and the unit has been offered for more than 5 years now.

Nope - the only reason you would likely get better mileage with high octane fuel in an engine that doesn't require it would be that it has no ethanol, something that a dwindling number of stations provide. http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline

Are you certain about that statement about fuel grades used in testing? Because running higher octane fuels than the system requires results in lower fuel economy . . . . .

No deductible for the factory basic warranty - if your vehicle was beyond the OEM coverage and you bought an extended warranty, you might have no deductible or a $100 deductible, depending on the specific warranty you would have purchased - and if you bought an aftermarket warranty, good luck.

I understood that they were supposed to replace all your keys under the recall.

Technically they're all just option packages - my Crossroad comes up as an SXT, based on it's serial number.

Maps are maps. The maps in your unit can be updated. Newer hardware will not display the maps any differently. The only OEM nav radio that fits in the Journey is the RB5, which is what you have now There is a newer revision of hardware, released during the 2012 model year but to the best of my knowledge, the only thing it brings to the table software-wise is an antitheft lock code. AFAIK the older hardware version should support traffic . . . . . is there a traffic submenu in your unit's navigator setting menu? If you haven't done it yet, firmware updates have been released for the RB5 radio. There is a web site where you can check to see if there are firmware (as opposed to map) updates: https://driveuconnect.com/software-update/ Factory nav radios are supposed to come with a 5 year traffic subscription from SiriusXM

It sounds more like you need to find a better dealer, than to be preaching about changing vehicles.

Again, not in Canada, which was one of my main reasons for writing the post I did . . . . and the Blacktop isn't offered, even as an option on the current 2016 product pages on the CANADIAN web site. Here are clickable links for screen captures of the two product pages - (click to access the full sized image) - I've highlighted the tab to show how, in Canada the Blacktop was a unique model and how it no longer appears for the 2016 MY:

As I wrote, I have seen Canadian dealers advertising '16 inventory. And yes, put in the AWD and load it up with a sunroof, full leather seats with both sides powered, 7 passenger seating, rear video, navigation and the rest of the stuff and the sticker gets up there. 1. In Canada, for 2015 it's a specific model, with it's own tab. But the '16 page, which seems to have gone live in the past 5 minutes (the 16s weren't there when I looked up the Blacktop a moment ago) doesn't have it the same way 2. It is on the rear of the console and you'll have an icon in the controls menu to turn it on if you have it. I'm off to spend a few minutes looking at the new 2016 pages on the Canadian Dodge site. The US site doesn't have the 2016s showing yet. The Journey is available in Olive Green up here for '16!! They dropped the Blacktop and according to the 'search inventory' tool. There are quite a few '16s (not Blacktops) in dealer inventory - I checked both Montreal and Toronto.

My solution for a bad 'engine BEAUTY cover' would be to lose the cover. And I did 50K on my '11 with the 2.4 without issue too.

According to the US Dodge web site the 2015 Crossroad base MSRP is $26,595 as was implied by the comment in Milous' opening post - so the question you should be asking is; "what changed between 2014 and 2015 to justify the $1600 difference between your sticker and that of the 2015?" Milous' post clearly indicates a $600 decrease to the new 2016 base Crossroad and an increase of $400 to the plus. From the list he provided, the base 2016 Crossroad seems to replace the Blacktop, so the Plus version is likely what the current Crossroad is, and simply has a $400 price increase (along with the 'plus' and the reported reduction in the factory warranty): The base 2016 Crossroad reportedly does not have the 8.4 inch display, nor does it have leather seats or the power driver's seat (and possibly more stuff too) to justify the $1,000 difference in MSRP between the two trim levels. ----------------------------- Based on the above post and discussions we've had over the past few years I decided satisfy my curiosity and to do a comparison between the base US and Canadian models of the Crossroad (since I now drive a Crossroad). So I downloaded the Canadian and American brochures (for 2015, since the 2016 ones aren't available yet) and picked through them, highlighting the differences between the base models as detailed in the brochures. Yes, I know you can option them up to be identical, but that wasn't my point in doing this exercise. For the record, mine is a base Canadian FWD Crossroad with only one factory option: Heated seats and steering wheel. From the equipment perspective I have added the OEM backup camera, OEM navigation and HIR lighting. I didn't save the original files used to generate the comparison, so I will not be updating the chart nor correcting the spelling error. And yes, I know that both have automatic air conditioning, which I believe is standard with the 8.4 - that begs the question as to whether the new base Crossroad, with it's 4.3 inch display will have automatic air? Note that incentives, destination charges and any excise taxes are not included in the chart, since they don't impact on MSRP. The following additional charges are indicated on the web pages: Destination charges (in the US = $995 / in Canada CAD$1,695/US$1,271) Canadian excise tax (CAD$100/US$75) Incentives as of this date: Cash allowance against purchase in the US: $3,250 Cash allowance against purchase in Canada: C$4,500 (that's about US$3,375) Currency conversion was done at today's exchange rates, which puts Canada's pricing at an advantage over the US values at this time. Feature comparison chart - base vs. base, according to the brochures:

Some '16s are available on dealer's lots in Canada now according to what I've seen online. I suspect that you will find them available in the US as well. Note that the warranty on US vehicles has reportedly been reduced.

Since I drive a CUV and not a scalded cat, my needs are to have a vehicle that can maintain the speed I need under the conditions I drive and my '11 spent most of it's time on the highway and it had the 4 - I would have bought another with the same engine, but they don't make the Crossroad with the 4 in Canada. The 6 is nice, but strangely a bit noisier than the 4 was on the highway. Having said that, the real difference is a few thousand dollars and as long as you are happy with your decision then that's great.

Well, lets start with the fact that your radio is an RB5, not an R5B. Next, I have no idea what you mean when you say 'lower two Icon on the right of the 8.4N' - the icons are across the bottom horizontally. The right icons on mine are 'phone' and 'settings' - on many US radios the 'settings' is replaced by 'more'. Then; There is no 'media hub', required or not, for the RB5. No wonder your dealer was confused. To get it to work: The maximum sized card I've ever been able to get working is 32 Gigs. If yours is bigger, spring the $10 and get a smaller one. - Take your SD card and copy off all of the MP3 files you have to your PC. - Reformat your card as a FAT32 drive - Create a directory called 'music' - Copy the MP3 files back to the card, into the 'music' directory (you can have another layer of folders in your card if you wish to organise your music, perhaps by artist or by album) - Insert the card into the slot and select 'player' and then the card as the music source, though it should auto-select as you plug it in. That ought to do it for you. Welcome to the group.

Car manufacturers install nothing that they don't absolutely have to. If it was there and if it wasn't an option, then it is a necessity. And in any case, ought to have been re-installed - and if your warranty had expired, then al the more reason for them not to mess with you since you are the customer paying the bills - if it WAS under warranty then they are ripping you and FCA off. I would tell them to re-install the one they removed at their expense and to install the one that was already missing, at your expense if beyond the warranty when they did the original work, at THEIR expense if you were still covered. And if someone at FCA told them that it wasn't required, then they need to come up with the name of the person that told them that and provide it in writing . . . . . then file a formal complaint.

I hate when dealers get into a 'parts swap' mode, the way old time television repair guys used to - they'd start in one corner and replace tubes until the TV started working again . . the problem was that more often than not they'd not take back their good tubes and eventually they had a caddy full of defective tubes and people got huge bills for repairs. Sounds like your dealer may be doing something similar . . . . will he refund your money if it doesn't solve the problem?

No. YOU mentioned multiple functions in one unit - uconnect is one unit. Your iPhone is one unit. And if the nav breaks you are not out for months - please stop exaggerating. Yes, it can take a dealer a few days or a week to get a part (my dealer would simply pull it from another vehicle if he had to, but you have to have a relationship with a dealer to get him to do favors for you). But it isn't as if the infotainment system stops working altogether - you just have no nav until the new unit is installed - and if your phone breaks how much does a new one cost if you aren't eligible for an upgrade? Hopefully you were fully backed up. The good news is that the entire vehicle is covered for however long you buy your extended warranty - lifetime, if that's what you chose. On another note if I was shopping for a USB cable to tether my phone to the vehicle I would think twice about the concept of dancing blue lights in my USB cable; They can cause reflections off the glass at night, could possibly affect night vision and can also be a distraction And, your comment about negative comments about the product was already dealt with by both Rolly and me - people don't come here to say their stuff works, but rather to ask what to do when it doesn't, so of course a large percentage of nav comments are about problems . . . . . One screen is enough in a vehicle - that is entire system is controllable from the steering wheel is a major plus and 8.4" is the perfect size for the display. Besides, it is already there.

Agreed - but consider that they don't build many new roads, so the real inconvenience to not updating the maps is that the points of interest can be somewhat outdated; then again they are never all that complete to begin with and even the updates have items that haven't been accurate for the past 12 years.