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Welcome Tazman! You came to the right spot- lots of info and lots of people willing to share. Enjoy!

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it won't be long!

I wouldn't necessarily dismiss the argument they made about it being hit by another vehicle. It could have been involved in an incident during delivery or even at the factory. I bought a vehicle in 1974 that had been repaired after someone had scraped the side during removing it from the delivery transport. I only found out months later when applying a coat of wax which highlighted the uneven paint. The company rep who investigated my complaint found the cover up. It may be possible for someone check the codes for your vehicle to see if any incident was recorded. I'm sure Dodge Cares can help.

Welcome to the forum. Pleasant Journey!!!

Terry, Your mods looks great. Did you get those from Mopar and did you install them yourself?

How did you make out at the dealership? Did you get it corrected? I'm still waiting for mine.

Hi Jeff, Welcome to the board and congratulations. I ordered a 2013 journey SXT in September and I'm still waiting. This forum is an excellent resource to get to know your Journey. We also have Chrysler reps - Dodge Cares ( for U.S.) and Dodge Cares Ca (for Canada) to help with any concerns. The other great thing you'll notice is that this forum is also international with Journey owners from all over the globe. Enjoy the ride!

That's terrible! Sorry to hear this, especially with the timing of your trip.

Good stuff! welcome aboard.

Congratulations and welcome from Canada. I ordered a 2013 Journey in September and will be waiting for a while. I live in Windsor, Ontario and the streets are absolutely crowded with Journeys they're everywhere- very popualr and a best seller in Canada. Enjoy your ride!

After waiting all that time, I'm sorry to hear about your problem. It must be frustrating. Hope it all works out!

Welcome to the forum. It's absolutely amazing that almost every corner of the earth is represented on this board. Congratulations and enjoy a safe Journey!

I agree. It's great to have a dealership that appreciates customer loyalty. After several bad service experiences with one particular Chrysler dealership in Windsor after a history of purchasing 6 vehicles over the years, I decided to go to another dealership to order my new Journey. I'm sure the change in ownership was definately the problem. They not only lost my business but my son's as well.

Thanks Terry, That makes me feel better. Maybe because I've seem more complaints about the tires than more positive comments it's left me a little concerned. I guess it's only natural to hear from someone who is having issues than it is from those without issues. A lot of times people will call to complain but hardly ever give feedback on a good product. Anyway thanks again!

Update on my attempt to swap out the Kumho tries. The parts department no longer swaps out tires, but they called one tire supplier for me who they knew would swap. He was only willing to give me $75.00 a tire. The supplier said he had 15 sets of Kumhos sitting in his warehouse already. I guess I'll have to live with them for now. As I said I do regular tire pressure checks and rotations so maybe it's a non issue.

Bamfrank, You're right about them selling me a set of tires, but I will only consider this if it's not going to cost me an arm and a leg. I don't mind paying a bit extra as long as it's Michelins or a similar quality tire. I'm a firm believer in regular tire rotation and checking my tire pressure. I replace my tires when I notice a change in the traction or because of age and not by their appearance. The Michelins that I had in the past still looked quite good, but had high mileage on them and the performance was causing me concern. If I had purchased a Town and Country, I could have ordered Michelins but I couldn't get them on the Journey.

When I was at the dealership ordering our Journey, I mentioned to the salesperson I would like to swap out the Kumho tires for another brand. I don't know if this is possible but I sent the dealer and email today to find out. Has anyone been able to do this? I'm willing to pay a little more if I can get something else. By the way I ordered the SXT with everything the same as the CREW, so I could stay away from the 19' tires.

Hi Pablo and welcome. My wife and I are also empty nesters and looking forward to our road trip across Canada and the U.S. next year. Originally we intended on buying a Chrysler 200 but after thinking it over we settled on the Journey because it was bigger and more comfortable. We have a 2001 Neon now, so it's certanly going to be a step up. We ordered a 2013 SXT last month and we're patiently waiting. Love your pics and your sense of humour. Enjoy your trips!

If your R/T has the Sound Group 1 package, this is what the Dodge Canada website says is included: 1-Year SIRIUS Radio Service 6 Premium Speakers w/Subwoofer 368 Watt Amplifier Portable Rechargeable Trouble Light 8.4" Touch Screen Display Air Conditioning ATC w/Dual Zone Control Garmin Navigation System Driver Convenience Group Park-Sense Rear Park Assist System ParkView Rear Back-Up Camera Universal Garage Door Opener SIRIUS Satellite Radio Radio: UConnect Touch 8.4N Media Centre UConnect Voice Command w/Bluetooth Rearview Auto Dim Mirror w/Microphone This option features: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Automatic air conditioning Automatic air conditioning is a completely integrated electronic system. The system automatically adjusts thermostat and fan settings as needed to maintain a preset temperature. The system may also be operated manually when preferred. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: AM/FM/Satellite In addition to traditional AM and FM radio reception, this radio, when properly equipped, is capable of receiving digital radio signals from a satellite. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: DVD-Audio DVD-Audio is a format for delivering high-fidelity audio content on a DVD disc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Performance grade speakers Performance speakers are higher quality speakers compared to a base level speaker. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Voice activated audio controls The audio system functions respond to voice command. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Wireless streaming This feature allows music to be transferred from a mobile device to the vehicle without the need to physically connect the two devices. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Navigation system The vehicle is equipped with a navigation system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Voice activated navigation system The vehicle is equipped with a voice activated navigation system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: Wireless connectivity Otherwise known as Bluetooth, this technology allows electronic devices to integrate with the vehicle systems without the need for a physical connection between them.

New features include 3D buildings and terrain views, improved traffic and routing functionalities, a refined user interface with enhanced colors and themes that are consistent with each vehicle brand and junction views that now cover more than 60,000 intersections across the U.S., among other enhancements.

Sorry, I posted the 2012 link, here's the 2013 site- http://www.driveuconnect.com/system/2013/dodge/journey/touch84nrb5/

No I haven't got it yet. I only ordered it on Septmber 10, so I imagine I won't get it until late November, or early December. The Nav system, I believe is voice activated, but I could be wrong. Here is the link that explains the Navigation system - http://www.driveucon...ey/touch84nrb5/ It's pretty impressive!

I ordered it with the 3.6. The difference in gas mileage is negligible. I also got the Navigation and back up camera. The 2013 Navigation system has been upgraded. As far as the transmission I think your out of luck. I believe the Journey is supposed to have a major revamp next year so I doubt if they would make a transmission change until then.

The 2013's were on the Dealers lots in Windsor since early to mid August.

Ha ha, that's how I started. I joined the forum in May, because I saw so many on the road and was impressed with the way it looked. The information and enthusiasm from the forum members helped ease any misgivings. My wife and I are retired and we are doing driving tour of the States and Canada next year and need a more comfortable ride. We own a 2001 Neon now so it's time for a change. We took a Journey for a 24 hour test drive and put in our order for a 2013 SXT the following week. Welcome to the board!