Journeyman425

The outside temperature must be below 40 degrees F, as measured by the Journey's Ambient Temperature Sensor, in order to activate the heated seats and steering wheel automatically with an engine start. At 40 degrees and up, you must activate them manually.

Once the key is inside the vehicle and the front door(s) close, then the car sees the fob as inside the vehicle and cancels the warning.

Terry, you are absolutely right. Chrysler is very fortunate to have been able to retain her as a customer. The root of most of her issue, IMO, is her selling dealership. They made a couple of half-assed attempts at repair, made the car worse and ultimately drove her to another, far away dealership. They don't deserve anyone's business for treating a customer that way. Hat's off to Franklin Dodge for accepting a customer with a car they did not sell, whose repair was already botched multiple times, and for accomodating her in the buyback process. It's not a moneymaker for them, trust me. But by doing so, perhaps they have earned her future business. She should not have had to endure the kind of stress that she has been put through; right on about that. If her new car proves to be reliable and problem-free, and if Franklin Dodge continues to do the right thing by her, then perhaps Chrysler may save face. It might be too late. Time will tell.

Thank you, Terry! Very kind.

Here in the US we have recently begun selling the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the VM 3.0 litre turbodiesel. Very impressive powerplant - 420 lb-ft of torque - more than the 5.7 litre Hemi V8. Smooth, quiet and no smoke at all. It meets or exceeds the emissions standards in all 50 states. It has just become available for ordering in the Ram 1500 pickup. We have a few on order but none have been built and delivered to my store yet.

Your Skye is such a cool car - very exotic looking. A modern classic for sure.

I don't understand the math, Roger. I see by the stock number on your sales order that it is the same as the on listed online for $21,192. The only way to discount the car from the sticker of $25, 730 to $21,192 is to include all rebates, all the markup from Factory Wholesale Price (FWP) to MSRP, and most, if not all of the holdback. The only profit the dealership would then make would be on the "desert protection package" whatever that is, then the financing, and any accessories or warranties they would be able to sell you. Fine. So how is it that the price went up nearly $5,000? Plus tax and fees? And the internet sales manager's response makes no sense to me at all. He says the price doesn't include the rebates and would go down another $2000.00. And then he got your name wrong at the end! I hate this kind of practice, too. My store is in a small town. We are up front about everything - if we tried to deceive someone, it would be all over town in no time and before you know it, there goes the business. Not tooting my own horn, but honesty pays off - the family I work for has been in business since 1927 by doing it this way and this way only. You made the wise choice by walking away.

I don't think it's too late. However, looking at the price of the Copper Pearl SE in their inventory, it looks like all applicable rebates have already been applied - that is probably why you were not aware of them. If you got a similar price on yours then the rebates are included.

The Crew was replaced by the Limited in the US for 2014. They are identical vehicles which have simply been rebadged and a couple of different colors are available this year. Not sure what the trim levels are named in Canada this year. I noticed, based on the myriad of pictures posted on this forum, that the Canadian R/T Rallye seemed to be equivalent in exterior apperance to my 2013 Crew. For instance: The US 2013 Crew featured chrome door handles, roof rails, grille, and the availability of chrome clad 19" wheels whereas our R/T has body-colored handles and grille, no roof rails and 19" wheels finished in Satin Carbon only. The Canadian R/T Rallye had all the same chrome features as the US Crew, whereas the R/T without the Rallye option looks more like the US R/T. Not sure of the lineup in Canada this year or what changes , if any, were made. As Wikipidia would say, "citations needed"! I never understood "Crew" as a trim level name for the Journey. To me, it conjures up an image of a four-door Ram pickup, which is fine in itself - I love the Ram truck - but it just seems like an odd name for a luxury trim level. "Limited" seems much more appropriate. The MPG I reported is in US gallons, and taken right from the EVIC. One of these days I'll do the actual arithmetic and compare it to what the EVIC states. It's accurate in my 300M - every time I've ever checked it mathematically, it is within .2 MPG. I am indeed happy with the mileage. When the weather was warm, we were averaging 22-24 per tankful. That has dropped to about 18.5-20 MPG with the cold and the extensive use of remote start. A couple of tanks were in the 16.5-18.0 range during the worst of the cold and frequent short trips. Still better than my 300M overall by at least 2 MPG with the same city/hwy mix.

The current incentive is $2000.00 on AVP/SE and $3500.00 on SXT. There are conditions to be met to qualify for all the rebates (not sure the details; I'm in service not sales) but the difference in MSRP between SE and SXT is $1800.00. I was thinking that if you qualified for all the rebates on the SXT then the difference is only $300.00. Anyway, congrats on your purchase and welcome to the Journey family!

Sorry, the sales code LMK for DRL is not in your Options database. I see you have rear fog lamps which are nice to have. Volvo offered them in the US when I worked for them 11 years ago. How does it run with the 2.0 litre diesel and six speed manual?

All Journeys are five passenger models unless fitted with the Flexible Seating Group option which adds the third row seats, plus rear A/C and three zone temp control. It is optional across the board. I know you said the SE is what your budget allows, but consider that there is $1500.00 in additional rebates on the SXT model which gives you: In addition to the standard SE features, Journey SXT replaces/adds these features: Performance suspension Body-color exterior mirrors Body-color performance fascia Fog lamps LED tail lamps 17-inch aluminum wheels Cargo cover Cargo net Front and rear floor mats Uconnect 4.3S SiriusXM Satellite Radio includes one-year subscription You might be able to get almost as good a deal on a SXT as a SE. Worth a look. If not, stick with the SE.

Hydroglossed, cleaned the wheels, tires and glass after my weekend road trip!

1) Absolutely; and I did note that in the body of my post. Just presenting another side of the story is all. 2) Agreed as well. My wife and I looked at the preproduction pictures and specs before we ordered our Journey. We didn't look very long. The Journey is highly under-rated, IMO. After spending 600 miles in it this weekend on our road trip, I was ready to turn around and drive across the country. I love driving this car! And if you've looked at all the pictures I've posted of it in the last nine months, you will see that I think it's good looking also

Debra - you are finally getting what you deserve - a car that you can love. It's a shame that you had to go through so much stress to get to this point, but at least the company is seeing your side of things and making way for you to have peace and a chance to love your Journey like most of us here are doing. Please keep us posted on the progress and maybe post a picture or two of your *new* new ride!

The 2014 is, for all practical purposes, completely carried over from 2013. Since mechanically nothing has really changed, the 2014's should continue to be very reliable. Each year there have been improvements in overall quality. 15,000 miles on our 2013 Crew and not a single issue yet. We're very happy with it.

I honestly do not know how the European dealer network operates. I would be willing to see if the option code is avaialble for a specific VIN, however. Feel free to post the last 8 if you wish and I'll see what comes up.

I work for a dealer. We've put, on average, 2-3 new Cherokees on the road per week since the car came out. 1) We've had over 60" of snow this winter and no complaints about the lights in any way. 2) Not one single complaint about the transmission. Jeep delayed the release of the Cherokee because of a software issue that affected the engagement of a dog clutch in the transmission. They flashed all the transmission controllers before they left the storage yards and that solved the problem. None of my customers have returned for any shifting issues whatsoever. 3) I have had no complaints of fuel economy specifically for the Cherokee. That being said, consider that the vehicle was released just before the onset of winter. Let's let the engines break in a little and let the temps come up and switch over from winter blend fuels. Everyone is complaining about a drop in fuel economy because of those reasons, on everything we sell. 4) No HVAC concerns have come across my desk, either. As a matter of fact, the only Cherokee that I've seen a problem with was a front end noise when the ambient temperature dropped well below freezing - like in the teens and colder. The problem was traced to an upper strut mount bearing. We replaced both sides and that corrected the issue. Other than that, my customers love them - and so do we. They are selling very well at my store. I posted this information just to show the other side of a story. Yes, I am a bit biased because I work for a C/J/D/R SRT store, and maybe I sound a bit defensive. If I saw evidence of the issues posted on those forums, I would either concur or offer some insight as to why they are occuring. But so far, the Cherokee has been a good car right out of the box - at least for us at my store. I hope it continues. The styling is definitely polarizing. I like the front end but not the rear. Kudos to Jeep for giving us something different. Let the people be free to love it or hate it. Just returned from a 600 mile weekend road trip with our Journey. 27.7 MPG going, 28.1 on the return trip. 3.6, FWD, four passengers and our stuff, 68 MPH with cruise on. Relatively flat terrain. Very impressive for a 4000 lb 283 HP CUV. No complaints from me about those fuel economy numbers. About 2 MPG better than my 300M with a smaller, less powerful V6 and better aerodynamics.

:blush: Thank you RTM for the kind words. But you give me too much credit! Adding a sales code to make the DRL's work is a most easy task to accomplish; I cannot understand either why it could not be done for you as well. It takes all of about three minutes, literally. Well, I'm glad it worked and happy to help! Heineken Light!

We've owned a 2000 Chrysler 300M for nearly fourteen years and have put 289,000 miles on it. My wife and I both agree it is the best car we've ever owned, hands down. That being said, our 2013 Journey Crew has some very big shoes to fill. We've now owned it for nine months and have 14,500 miles on it and we are very happy with it. The car has been completely free of defects and runs exactly as it did the day we took delivery - no strange noises, vibrations or anything except smooth and quiet. It is luxurious and practical all at once and offers a level of performance that is usually not found in a family oriented utility vehicle. Our average fuel economy (3.6, FWD) had been averaging around 22-24 MPG until about mid-December when it really began to get cold; we're averaging around 18-19 now. Remote start is very often used! Considering its 7 passsenger capability and 4000 lb weight, I think that's perfectly acceptable. This weekend we're taking a road trip and I'll report our fuel economy when we return. And, as a purely subjective note, I think the thing is pretty damn good looking, too! The people over at CR simply have no taste!

This may help: 14 - Fuel System/Fuel Injection/INJECTOR(S), Fuel/Removal 3.5L WARNING: The fuel system is under a constant pressure (even with the engine off). Before servicing any part on the fuel system, the fuel system pressure must be released.1. Release fuel pressure, (Refer to 14 - Fuel System/Fuel Delivery - Standard Procedure) . 2. Disconnect and isolate negative battery cable at battery. 3. Remove the upper intake manifold, (Refer to 09 - Engine/Manifolds/MANIFOLD, Intake - Removal) . 4. Disconnect the quick connect fuel line from the fuel rail. NOTE: Mark fuel injector electrical harness connectors with correct corresponding cylinder numbers. 5. Disconnect all fuel injector electrical connectors (1) from fuel injectors (2). 6. Remove fuel rail mounting bolts from fuel rail and lower intake manifold. NOTE: Gently rock the fuel rail and injectors back and forth to loosen the seals on the fuel injectors from the cylinder heads.CAUTION: Do Not use excessive force or prying tools to remove fuel rail and injectors. Damage to the fuel rail and injectors may result.7. Lift fuel rail straight up off of the cylinder heads. 8. Drain any excess fuel from the fuel rail into an approved fuel storage container. NOTE: When replacing individual fuel injectors, each fuel injector must be installed to it's original position. Mark or tag each fuel injector to identify the correct cylinder. 9. Remove retaining clips (5) from fuel injectors (2) at fuel rail (4).

Here's a pic of the connector, separated. Looks like there's a locking tab that you have to lift to separate the two halves. They are probably stuck together from heat and age as well. If the injector swap does not work, then run a compression check.

I posted a picture of our ball mount and ball in the topic you started about towing a pop up. Most pop up campers do not have provisions for installing a generator - most of the camper body is used to store the beds, canvas and equipment that it comes with. Some of the larger ones have storage on the tongue ahead of the propane tank(s) - you might fit a generator in there. Our camper is too small to put a generator in, and it has an icebox, not a fridge. However, Honda makes a very nice, compact and quiet generator that will run a fridge and small appliances like a toaster or coffemaker, and it is easily transported in your car or inside the camper while it is folded down for towing. Our camper has a 110v hookup which will run the outlets and any appliances if we're at a campsite with hookups, so we've really never needed a generator. The battery runs the lights inside of it and the propane gas takes care of cooking.

My 1998 Jayco pop-up has surge brakes. Like Webslave states, they are not very effective but I'm still glad they are there. We overhauled the brake system on the camper in 2012 - replaced the steel lines, adjusted the shoes, cleaned and lubed the coupler, repacked the wheel bearings, bled everything out - because they weren't working at all when I first got it (2010). I don't do much towing with it - once or twice a year - and we don't go very far, and our terrain is flat. It uses a 2" ball. Not sure what the height is, but here's a photo of the ball mount. Camper sits pretty level behind the Journey with this setup.

How many miles on your Journey? Plugs are due @102,000 miles according to the maintenance schedule set forth in the manual, but honestly they rarely last that long. Could be ignition, fuel or mechanical issue. Remove the spark plug to inspect its condition. You can try switching ignition coils with the adjacent cylinder when you remove the plug to see if the misfire follows the coil. If the MIL comes back on for the same cylinder, you can try swapping the injectors like you did with the coil to see if the misfire follows the injector. If it stays on cylinder six, then the cause is likely to be mechanical (usually a burned valve).