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I got my Journey, new, in late Dec 2012. Drove it for a bit with the stock Kumhos, including a highway run in a snowstorm. They were drivable but not great in snow. Went with a set of Goodyear Ultragrip Winters, which are pretty good in deep snow but not much of an improvement on ice. I'd describe the Kumhos as average / typical all seasons, definitely will look for something better when they need replacement.