I have not used snow tires for years. When I was working, I lived very close to my job. And, I plan my winter trips around the weather. My Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus tires performed flawlessly in the snow, last winter, so I see no need to change out to winter tires. In California, in the mountains, you need either chains or 4wd. At that time I had a Subaru and the cops let me pass!