FeArN Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Wondering in any one can help, I have a dodge journey 2.0 crd sxt auto 2009 in the UK . my problem first started when starting the car in the morning and driving off in drive, the automatic gearbox wouldn't change out of first gear, stopping the car turning the ignition off and restarting again and the car would be fine no issues going through the gears, it would do this every morning. the engine management light was on also but not sure of error codes at this time, The car was due an MOT and a look into the issue. The night before it was due to be looked at the situation got worse after pulling into a car park, the car wouldn't drive at all, even selecting reverse there is nothing the car would just rev up, putting into semi auto and trying to select the gears as soon as you put it in it would jump from 1st to 2nd, shifting the selector left and right would have no affect. the car was recovered to a local garage and the engine management comes up with the following P2849 Shift fork 1 stuck P284B Shift fork 3 stuck P1759 function select solenoid 2 control circuit performance So my local garage have told me its most likely the transmission control module at around 1000-1500 and the worst case a gearbox at around £5000-£6000 I'm an electrician/auto on heavy construction equipment so willing to carry out work myself. Any help is appreciated Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Well, if you want to do the work yourself, the shop has already told you what they would do. Start with the module. If that’s does not work, time for a new transmission. OhareFred and 2late4u 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeArN Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 18 hours ago, jkeaton said: Well, if you want to do the work yourself, the shop has already told you what they would do. Start with the module. If that’s does not work, time for a new transmission. My post was probably a bit vague, but yourself you would be happy with the possibility to replace the TCM at a cost of a part that looks like it’s £1000 with the possibility that’s it’s not the and actually the transmission, I’m no expert by far and my knowledge of automatic transmissions is probably zero! but as far as fault finding is concerned it worry’s me this is the comment of a moderator and people are actually liking and loving it! Is there an award for most likes in a day or something? I’m probably need to ask separate questions and throw them out there but I thought I would just put my problem out there and hopefully I may get a good few pointers or past issues johnny_162 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 to be honest you are asking us readers who by the most dont have extensive mechanical experience on what to do to your journey after you said the mech told you what he thinks is wrong, and you dont want him to do it and do it yourself. that said we get post like this everyday and then the posters dont like what we have said or dont know how to do the repair. working on problems like yours is for experienced mech and shops that have the tools and equipment for doing the job,maybe one of our members might be able to help you but your best bet is finding a good mech you trust and go for it, good luck on what ever you do and please report back on what you find out is your problem so others might benefit from what you find out... OhareFred and jkeaton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 What he said. ^^ My comment was a straight forward response to your question. Sorry it offended. OhareFred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I don’t understand why you got upset. You gave your problems, you had a plan, did you think we could talk you through it here? You stated you didn’t mind doing the work, and the suggestion of starting with the module is completely correct. If you don’t want to take the chance that’s not it, not much else you can do other then 1:rebuild the transmission , which you state you are not qualified to do, or 2: replace the transmission , hard work, possibly needs special tools, but you will save some money 3: take it to a trans shop or dealer and let a pro do it. Costs more but will have a warranty. Since you don’t give a location we cannot suggest where to take it. You can try looking on UTube for a video on what’s involved, then you can make an informed decision, however we cannot diagnose, or repair, your transmission for you on a forum. Best of luck whichever way you decide to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeArN Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I not upset, Jkeaton original post for me isn’t worth posting, doesn’t help the situation and how people can like it or love it is beyond me, Sorry I just feel it’s for the sake of posting getting there counts up ect I understand that most people reading are owners and enthusiasts but sometimes on the forums there are more people with technical knowledge but to carry out As per what I have been told would pass the value of the car! Going off my only Information so far, which is vague. im not saying I have to do it also! I just though I may get some information, to be honest I should ask more direct questions! I need to do more research myself first! Not expecting a mirical by a forum post but some people with experience can have some good tips ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Not sure where the "posting to get counts up" comes from.....anyway.... Automatic transmissions are not something the typical journey owner has the desire to work on or is capable of troubleshooting/diagnosing themselves. They leave it to the professionals. I've been wrenching on cars for the better part of 45 years. I won't touch an automatic transmission. That's something, to me, best left to the professionals. You got a diagnosis from professionals then asked for advise. I can tell you since I've been on this forum for 5-6 years, the knowledge you seek is not going to be found here. Sorry about that. Perhaps in the future. Maybe try dropping the pan and replacing the filters and fluid. See it that helps. I'm quite sure no one has even done that here on this forum that I'm aware of since the system is sealed and dealer/shop serviceable only. Good luck to you. Edited January 23, 2018 by jkeaton 2late4u, larryl and Bustamatic 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfurth Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Due to the need to reprogram the TCM, this is not a DIY job. You don't have the tools, nor are they cost effective to purchase and then DIY this repair. Have a mechanic do it, or trade it in and get a newer vehicle. Those are basically your two viable options. Edit: To be much more clear: you NEED a StarScan tool to complete the job. It cannot be done without one. That tool, on EBay, will run you nearly $2,000. That doesn't include access to a data source for the firmware that will be loaded on the TCM. In the US, there is also a legal requirement to physically document on the vehicle the date and mileage at the change whenever the TCM is changed because the odometer will no longer necessarily be accurate. So, really, you can't do this repair at home. It won't work. Edited January 23, 2018 by bfurth FeArN and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeArN Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Thanks for info so far Is there a way I can confirm the gearbox type in my journey? Only because I believe it to be the Gertrag 6DTC450 (MPS6) but would like to confirm this, Looks like transmission oil change possible from a quick look and it talks about draining 3 different chambers model is SXT CRD 2.0l diesel currently looking at at getting rid of the car as it is, being valued! Also plan on speaking to a automatic box specialist on his opinion i will still research myself also in between this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 No diesels here so hard to give info jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetlifOrob Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Hi Guys, I'm facing exactly the same issue with my Journey. Did you have a solution? Could you please share with me? Many thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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