Journeyphenia Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I thought I'd share this for anyone interested in an easy improvement to the Journey. I smoothed out the air passage from before the snorkel to the throttle body and it seems to have given me a smoother/quieter engine, better mpg and better shifting. Here is what I've done in case you want to give it a try. 1. The top section of plastic that integrates into the front grill along with the underside of the hood, are the surfaces which the air first passes over in route to the air intake snorkel. The is sealed between the two surfaces by rubber seals on the hood so you'd only address the area within the rubber seals. I smoothed out those surfaces by applying auto wrap film to them. The factory plastic is fairly smooth but nothing in comparison to an auto wrap. You'd need to read up on auto wrap and use a blow dryer to get the wrap pliable to the surfaces. 2. To apply the wrap film under the hood, I first removed the rubber seal which sits in front of the snorkel opening when the hood is down. It prevents direct air flow into the mouth so removing it immediate give better air flow. My guess is that it was meant to prevent objects from entering the air filter housing so after I removed the rubber, I drove the car for about a week and in heavy rain to see if any water or objects would end up in the air filter housing. I didn't get anything into my air box and I drove it mostly on city streets. During a heavy rain, I checked out under the hood and found a few drops near the inlet but other than that, totally dry. I've checked it after a lot more driving and still nothing in the air filter box. 3. The film wrap on the top of the grill covers everything forward of the snorkel and ends inside the snorkel at the bump up of the snorkel. It goes over an ill fitting joint of the snorkel and grill section and smooths them out. Before I wrapped, I smoothed out that two matting surfaces with a file, a razor and sand paper so that it's as level a surface possible between the two. Before I wrapped this, I also tightened up the joint. That part is mentioned at #4. 4. I added film to the top underside of the air inlet snorkel. I removed the plastic push pin running through the top of snorkel. The pin connects the two sections of plastic but it's sloppy fit. I then pulled the snorkel up closer for a tighter fitting joint between the two, put some gorilla glue under the joint and drove a small screw to bind them until the glue dried. The film I applied went back about 3" into the mouth, enough to cover the old screw hole and the push pin hole. The film also wrapped down the sides into a U shape. 5. All of the work I did where I was using auto wrap, I tried to first remove any rough edges to create very smooth and flat surfaces with. If you feel around in the snorkel you will find rough spots and areas that can be improved from what came out of the factory. 6.After everything was film wrapped, I ran a cloth through the snorkel into the air filter housing to remove any grime and did the same wipe down inside the air filter housing. In the air box, you will also find rough edges on the surface shortly before the air exits the box toward the throttle body. I used mostly a razor on those rough spots, maybe some fine sandpaper as well. The section of plastic between the air filter housing and the throttle body also has some mfg. imperfections and rough edges. I used a razor to clean those up as well. When finished, I had a very smooth passageway for air travel. I don't know the physics of it but it seems like that lack of turbulence somehow made the computer read the air flow differently and improved transmission shifts and the 2nd to 3rd hesitation shift. It also improved higher speed kick downs. The entire engine seems quieter so my guess is some of the acceleration noise was partly rough air noise. The engine feels much smoother during acceleration from this as well, mostly in 3rd gear. I know this sounds like a stretch. I was only looking for improved power so these results were a surprise to me and it's not as if I found the result I was looking for. It came out of left field. I hope this is info someone can use and let me hear if it works for you. If anyone finds the interest, I'll try to post photo's. larryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Journeyphenia Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 As a follow up to the first impressions I had after air intake modification, here's what I've found after about 3 weeks of driving and about 4 tanks of gas. 1. Every once in a while, I now have slight bucking of the trans or engine. It only happens at deceleration and has happened 2 - 3 times 2. Every once in a while, a harder shift feel on acceleration, likely 5th to 4th prime, not sure. It has happened about 4 times. 3. Much less hesitation when hitting the gas to make it through a traffic light in time. Still has great pedal feel, smooth and stronger accelerations. For these reasons, I could totally live with the issues mentioned above. 4. I tried 87, 89 an 91octane. 1st was 91, then 87, then 89. I went back to 91 because it seemed the best. I was hoping it wouldn't and conventional internet wisdom told me it wouldn't make a difference. City didn't seem great with 87 or 89 but it's very hard to gauge city. Switched back to 91 and city seems better. The car showed a city averaged 18.6 and the math showed it at 18.4. That was on Shell 91 in city only driving with a minimum load of 100 lb and sometimes a load of 200 - 300lb. Typically city was stoplights every mile, medium accel. up to about 42 - 45mph, cruise until the next stoplight in a mile or so and so on. Short highway travel seemed great on 91 octane but I didn't check elevations then. The only long highway was with Shell 91 and packed with about 300lbs. I drove from 2800ft to 4200 ft elevation, some driving around a few towns around 4200 ft with stop and go, 3 more highway trips from 4200 ft. up to 9000 ft and back down to 4200 ft. A return back down to 2800 ft with some minor scenic stops, dirt roads and some in town driving on the way. The car registered 24.7 mpg. I couldn't check the actual math. From past experience, it has been very close to what the car shows. 4. Sometimes in city driving, I feel that the air feeding into the snorkel above 25 - 30 mph has lightened how much pressure to put on the pedal. Taking the foot off the pedal at 30 - 40 mph and the vehicle seems to slow down at a slower rate than in the past. It's a feeling I'm still getting used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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