Danbert Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 I have a 2015 Journey SXT - V6 FWD With just under 34K miles The ABS, and traction control (TC) lights on. (Previously the Brake and MIL were lit as well, and the speedometer stopped working for a short time (~2 days)) I took the DJ into the dealership to apply the remaining recall for re-flashing the ECM. I spoke with the service guy about the issues and he said that a diagnostic would be $125 an hour, 1 hour minimum. After we had that conversation he gave me the codes that they pulled. The codes were: PCM U0121 Lost Communication With Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Control Module "A" - Stored PCM U1141 Lost Brake and Torque Messages - Stored PCM U11BC Lost Brake Switch Message - Stored PCM U1120 Lost Wheel Distance Message - Stored PCM U1110 Lost Vehicle Speed Message - Stored ICS B210D-16 Battery Voltage Low - Circuit Voltage Below Threshold - Stored TPM U0121-00 Lost Communication With Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Control Module "A" - Stored RFH U0121-00 Lost Communication With Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Control Module "A" - Stored ABS C0031-62 Left Front Wheel Speed Sensor - Signal Compare Failure - Stored ABS C2100-16 Battery Voltage Low - Circuit Voltage Below Threshold - Stored ABS C2200-47 Anti-Lock Brake Module Internal - Watchdog / Safety µC Failure - Stored ABS C2200-49 Anti-Lock Brake Module Internal - Internal Electronic Failure - Active ABS C0031-1D Left Front Wheel Speed Sensor - Circuit Current Out of Range - Active ABS C0031-2F Left Front Wheel Speed Sensor - Signal Erratic - Stored ABS C212A-16 System Voltage - Circuit Voltage Below Threshold - Stored TGW B210A-16 System Voltage Low - Circuit Voltage Below Threshold - Stored IPC U0121-00 Lost Communication With Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Control Module "A" - Stored BCM U0121-00 Lost Communication With Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Control Module "A" - Stored After the ECM was re-flashed for the recall now we just have the ABS and TC Lights on. I am all in for replacing the wheel speed sensor. I am fairly certain that I can handle that job. My query is multi-part. 1. How possible is it that I can replace the wheel speed sensor and have that fix the problem? 2. Should I expect to replace the ABS module? 3. If I have to replace the ABS module, do I need the dealership do anything with it? 4. If I need to have someone program or flash the module, how likely is it that a service shop would have that ability? My Journey had an applicable recall for the ABS module. October 19, 2015 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 15V675000 Water May Enter the ABS Module If the ABS or ESC is disabled, a loss of vehicle stability could occur, increasing the risk of a crash. NHTSA Campaign Number: 15V675000 Manufacturer Chrysler (FCA US LLC) Components ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL, SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Potential Number of Units Affected 275,187 Summary Chrysler (FCA US LLC) is recalling certain model year 2012-2015 Dodge Journey vehicles manufactured April 21, 2012, to April 14, 2015. In the affected vehicles, water may enter the wiring harness for the Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) module and leak into the module, disabling the ABS and/or the Electronic Stability Control (ESC) system. Remedy Chrysler will notify owners, and dealers will seal the ABS wiring harness to prevent water from entering and will replace the ABS module and repair the headlamp and dash wiring harness, as necessary. These repairs will be performed free of charge. The recall began on December 21, 2015. Owners may contact Chrysler customer service at 1-800-853-1403. Chrysler's number for this recall is R61. In November of 2017 I took the DJ to a dealership in Texas to complete the recall listed above. Is there a way to visually verify if that procedure was correctly applied? I understand that it has been 18 months since and I really don't think anyone would really care if they did it right or not. Additionally, if I replace the ABS module and have it looked at and the cause of failure is determined to be due to moisture entering the module (Which the recall was supposed to resolve), Is this something that would be worth my time to bring up to Dodge? Thank you for reading and thank you in advance. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) a few weeks ago my ABS, and traction control (TC) lights on my 2014 started coming on and going off intermittently and then a day later came on solid ,so i took it in to my dealership and they replaced the right front wheel sensor, i have the max life warranty but they said sense the cost to fix it would be less than my 100 deductible i would have to pay the book rate which ended up being around $29 for the part and $29 for labor, had them do the plugs and the coolant change as well since i have 93 k on the clock,all set for another 100 k....................P.S. when mine were lit the only other thing not working was the cruise control so if you have other things not working i would assume you have something else not working right,good luck Edited June 16, 2019 by 2late4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Thank you. You got a great deal on that sensor. I think my plan for the moment is to replace the wheel sensor and see if that clears the code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 if you know which one that would be great i found out the local part stores cant read abs codes they can only read engine check light codes, let us know what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Fortunately the codes provided by the dealer shows the Left Front Wheel Speed Sensor - Circuit Current Out of Range code so hopefully that is the right one. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 easy to replace.on the front good luck Danbert and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Sensor on order along with brake pads. I figure if I have to pull the wheel I might as well replace the pads. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanical-idiot Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 You might want to get a set of rotors as well, just in case they are in need of replacement. You can always save them for the next time, or take them back if you don't need them. That way if you change them in the evening or on the weekend, you are not up shit creek without a paddle (or without brakes in this case). mechanical-idiot Summer Solstice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, mechanical-idiot said: You might want to get a set of rotors as well, just in case they are in need of replacement. You can always save them for the next time, or take them back if you don't need them. That way if you change them in the evening or on the weekend, you are not up shit creek without a paddle (or without brakes in this case). mechanical-idiot I agree with mechanical--idiot, always change the rotors makes the pads last a lot longer and then if the old ones are not bad have them turned and your ready to go the next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Thanks. That is good advice. I will get some rotors coming too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnellbagz Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Did the front wheel sensor fixed all the problem @Danbert? My 2013 Dodge Journey has a Traction light always ON (nothing else). I am using a BlueDriver OBD scanner and it gives me these codes. U0429-00 Invalid Data Received From Steering Column Control Module: No Sub Type Information MIL/CONFIRMED C0051-49 Steering Wheel Position Sensor: Internal Electronic Failure MIL/CONFIRMED C0037 Left Rear Wheel Speed Sensor: Signal Compare Failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 poster never came back to report what fixed his problem so we dont know,,,blogs like this can help a lot of people but ONLY if after the problem gets fixed they report back.....i would replace the speed sensor that it is telling you to.. usually if its a speed sensor you get both the abs and tc light on ...good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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