Guerrerojp87 Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Hi, I'm new I'm working on my father in laws car. 2010 dodge journey v6.turn the key and it doesnt crank. If I put power to the new starter with the key in the run position the engine cranks but doesnt turn on. If I spray starter fluid in the air intake and put power directly to the starter it cranks and turns on and stays running. Anyone can help me fixing this issue? Maybe just bad ignition switch? Any input will help. I dont know how to test the ignition switch. Any help or diagrams are much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerrerojp87 Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Looks like I posted in the wrong place. Idk how to fix that either. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) Can you try a second key in case they are a security chip key (low possibility). Park neutral safety switch on tranny can prevent starter engaging; try putting neutral and starting car. Is there an After market security system on vehicle ? Pic is standard relay wiring diagram. Edited July 17, 2020 by John/Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerrerojp87 Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, John/Horace said: Can you try a second key in case they are a security chip key (low possibility). Park neutral safety switch on tranny can prevent starter engaging; try putting neutral and starting car. Is there an After market security system on vehicle ? Pic is standard relay wiring diagram. I tried starting it with the 2nd key. Didnt work. Tried in neutral also didnt work. No aftermarket alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Doesn’t turn on with key I missed that. Need to scan for codes in ecm see what turns up. Need to have someone hold key in on position and see if the small power feed (12 volts) coming from key switch is making it to the starter motor. It’s the signal that sends power to the big cable feeding the starter solenoid. You could try marking starter relay and swapping it with another identical relay to see if coil is bad. Is there a security light on dash that is on right now? Seems like fuel pump and starter not coming on. When you turn on key to last click before starting, listen closely for fuel pump sound, it should cycle on and then off as it pressurizes system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 There was an ignition key recall for 09-? If the car doesn’t have a push button it might be included. Was it ever taken in/checked for that? You can go to my mopar.com, create a profile, enter the vin and it will tell you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramfrank Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/17/2020 at 7:33 PM, OhareFred said: There was an ignition key recall for 09-? If the car doesn’t have a push button it might be included. Was it ever taken in/checked for that? You can go to my mopar.com, create a profile, enter the vin and it will tell you.... Wasn't that recall simply to correct a issue where a key with a heavy ring attached would cause the ignition to turn off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 They replaced the entire ignition unit along with new key fobs. It may have been for heavy key rings, but if it wasn’t done on the op’s car it may fix the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) https://ca.cargurus.com/Cars/Discussion-t33365_ds653963 I think GM was heavy key random stalling...safety issue. Corroded switch and possible fire is this Dodge isssue. Was the OP having this no start problem on and off and just threw a starter at it to try and fix it, maybe. https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjRoYmh5dnqAhWUYDUKHaMQC-UQFjAAegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motortrend.com%2Fnews%2Frecall-alert-2009-dodge-journey-200809-ram-recalled-for-electrical-problems-4217%2F&usg=AOvVaw2GV-D2L6AfrLgu-Swjtb0J Edited July 19, 2020 by John/Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 That’s not the recall I was talking about. It was for non-push button ignition switches. The ones where you stick the key/fob into the dash and turn it. That’s the one I was talking about. Had mine done a few years ago. New in dash ignition module a 3 new fobs... 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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