Jpass74 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Long story short, new to forum . Bought dodge journey new in 2016. Has 48,000 currently. I got a recent CEL for crankshaft sensor. I been searching the forum looking for the location of the crankshaft sensor location. I been finding post on the other journey motors but none of the location on 2016 journey AWD . Any help would be appreciated! Dealerships want over 800 for the repair. Times are tough so I want to tackle this on my own. It's a 20$ part. Any help and details of location and what's all involved to get the job done or point me in right direction. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Not familiar with your year as for any major changes from the 2011 AWD we recently bought. I take it you have the 3.6 motor? I do know that part location did not change for any year of the 3.6, no matter what body(200/Avenger/Charger/some jeeps) they were installed in. So if you can find it on another platform 3.6 motor, the process would be the same. Edited October 19, 2020 by 5rebel9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpass74 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Thanks for the reply, I suppose I havent looked at other 3.6 vehicles. I didn't know if it was due to it being AWD if there is more to it. Is it hidden behind anything etc. Again thank for the help. I'll take any advice given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 not a real clear video but will give you some location info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 he is hard to understand at least for this old counrty buy but this shows the engine needs to be re learned after replacing the new part as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Yeah after my post, I looked for some you tubes on the subject and found the same and others...couldn't post back sooner due to HOME GAME(on TV) of my BUFFALO BILLS/ KC CHIEFS game. It's halftime now and was just checking back in here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpass74 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Thanks again for the vids, I also seen those videos. Wasnt to helpful, when I was underneath I couldnt even find the same heat shield. I wont be getting back underneath till later this week, Ialso notice I got more in the way its awd rt . So underneath looks differently from the others I have seen. Though thank again! Everyone been helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 dealership parts counter should be able to point you in the right direction or the part stores where you do business as well...good luck P S being AWD shouldn't make much difference on this part location as the 3.6 engine is standard over almost all models it is used in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 as before this guy is hard to understand, i am assuming you have the 3.6 engine ( you never stated what eng) and this video would make sense why the dealership wants so much for the repair, the other videos were on 2 .4 i would assume...local garage with a competent mechanic should also be able to fix it cheaper than the dealership,,,good luck on what ever you find out and do ...please report back on that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpass74 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yes it's the 3.6 I keep forgetting to add that part, my fault. I'll def keep it posted. As soon as I get to the car. "Still currently driving" probably shouldnt but only vehicle I have right now. Still starts and runs doesnt pick up to speed but does have crankshaft sensor as the cel. I'll do more hunting to see where its hidden . Maybe I just keep over looking it. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 We had a poster on here a few months ago with a awd 3.6 cps problem. He never really told us the final outcome. Ome of his last posts said he was told it is tucked in behind the RDU transfer case behind transmission. So drive shaft has to be dropped down and rdu unbolted and removed. So lots of labor to get at it, which sounds like what your dealer is quoting you. When they quoted repair wouldn’t they answer what the labor cost entailed ? If you find the answer please report back. Someone with a Mitchel Auto repair on line login would be able to look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpass74 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 It was a quote over the phone, it was a service rep, not the actual tech. All he said was about 1 or 2 hours of labor and diagnostic fee, he said he cost more due to it being awd. Though its 6 am here in Wisconsin and I just crawled underneath and still couldnt find it for the life of me. Got few exhaust burns . Shouldnt waited till it was cooled down. Though i take another peek before i get sleep. 3rd shift schedule. I watched dozens of videos , so i dont know if I'm just blind or its hidden behind something , again any help is appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpass74 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just giving everyone a follow up, ended up having the shop do the work. All in all everything did have to come apart. Drive shaft , power control unit. Catalytic converter, bunch of other things. It was hidden behind everything. For labor and sensor came out total of 630, though main issue was. A rodent of some sort. Ended up getting in there and chewed the wiring harness to the sensor. Which was as extra 60$ so came out to 680 with parts and labor. Which was still cheaper then dealer. Again thanks for everyone's help. Wish I could of knocked it out myself but definitely didnt have the time to do so. 5rebel9 and OhareFred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Darned rodents!! Your's is not the first case I've heard of this happening to various vehicles, seems that the SOY based insulation required by Gov't is enticing these rodents to do their harm more frequently than in the past. Sorry to hear of your expense to fix the problem. But thanks for updating and closure to the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyguru69 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 The 3.6 liter dodge journey awd crankshaft positioning sensor is in the bottom of the block behind the engine where the transfer case is. There’s no room to get to it even if you remove the shield and everything.and even if you can get the bolt off the 10mm for the sensor then it’s to long to pull out cause the transfer case is in the way. There’s barely any room. So you have to take the transfer case off to change the crank position sensor. And if you look in the middle of the transfer case and engine block underneath the journey it’s literally between them going into the engine right behind the flywheel in between the transfer case and engine. So take the transfer case off and you’re good to go. The internet doesn’t really have videos showing the best things to do cause I searched everything and there all for the 2.4 ones not the 3.6 and half the videos are blotchy and doesn’t show you anything really. I know cause I just did mine and it’s a pain to do it’s not like some other cars that are simple to get to cause you HAVE to remove the transfer case and then you have full access to it 5rebel9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 Yes, a real PAIN. A job I had to have dome last summer on the wifes '13 AWD. I got away for slightly less money than the original poster of this thread. IF it were a FWD, it would have been a "piece of cake" job to do as it is "out in the clear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 (edited) So pulling starter doesn’t help create room like on some vehicles. I have a new sensor on hand , high milage so kinda over due right now. Not looking forward to it …don’t have access to a hoist. Just did daughters 2.7 Rondo CPS. Starter pulled and mechanics mirror, extensions etc. Not exactly easy on that vehicle either. Edited August 30 by John/Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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