ddpierce Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Help! replaced the oil pan on the 2013 Journey. Purchased new pan and a Victor brand gasket that the part store website showed as paper thin with the engineered sealant already applied. What the gasket was was the cork/rubber material. I knew that was going to give more grey hairs. The O.E. torque was 105 lbs / in for the 17 small bolt and 195 lbs / in for the 5 large bolts. Placed the RTV sealant on the pan, then added the gasket and then added to the block side of the gasket. Install pan the finger tighten all the bolts and let the RTV set up for 24 hrs. Began to torque all the bolts in a X pattern and noticed that the 105 lbs / in seem high. Search the Google and all the gasket manufactures and no one shows a lower value for the thicker cork / rubber gasket. Continued with suggested values and sure as there is doggie droppings in the garden, today after starting the engine, the gasket in corner by the AC compressor is squished out and dripping oil. It stuck in my head, the factory values are for a pan with a RTV bead only. Is there a different lower torque value for thicker cork / rubber gaskets? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Mitchel on line login site might have some info. I hate cork style gaskets, have had issues in the past. New oil pan should have had a recommendation. Straight rtv meant for oil and 24 hrs drive time should work. Degrease,with lacquer thinner and wait an hour ish with finger tight torque on atv first, then do final torque. There is a 90 min dry atv, I’ve used once successfully, pic below. With oil dripping down on your degreased surface, it’s a little tricky, gotta work fast. Some vehicles like F150:use an aluminum crush shim with an attatched rubber gasket, dry no adhesive used, drive immediately on their transmission 6R80. Nothing to clean and gasket/shim even reusable. But $40 to buy new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 After finger tight dry time for atv. Don’t go to full torque in one step, go to full 105 in pounds in three lower steps. Start in the middle of pan and criss cross outwards, don’t start at outside corners first. Unless you find Mitchel site telling you other wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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