14WhiteRTRallye Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=keyword&origin=keyword&q=926876 Who is going first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) This will also work on the 2011 - 2013's BIG IF that you remember to use the 2014 and newer oil filter cartridges at installation and subsequent oil changes. Our '11's has not needed replacement yet, but it will be the one that goes on when that time comes. Edited October 9, 2021 by 5rebel9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I changed wife’s two years ago with oem plastic. My leak came from bad gaskets it think, no sign of a crack. Wast aware of aluminium option. This Kit also Comes with intake gaskets, not bad price at $180 can pesos. . There are aluminum coolant replacement parts that are originally plastic as well. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=12899725&jsn=273 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 2:11 PM, 14WhiteRTRallye said: https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=keyword&origin=keyword&q=926876 Who is going first? Me ! I hate this plastic crap piece of ..... plastic. And I will pay double here in Brazil after import fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Doesn’t have an oil filter or the cap included it looks like. Old cap from plastic unit should just move over to alum unit. The new plastic units all come with new oil temp and pressure switch’s which you will also have to move over. Make sure to use Teflon tape or pipe thread compound. The alum/magnesium unit is probably made in China by Dorman. If you could get it direct from one of the China on line sites, Alibaba Aliexpress, Focalprice etc might be cheaper. The plastic heat exchanger failures seemed focused around 2014-2015 years when new oil filter and housing design came out. Some owners have failures during warranty period. People have speculated some failures came from someone trying to use old style wrong filter. My Journey was bought used and leak started a year after purchase. Was careful to use correct filter. I never found a crack I could see; seemed like oring failure caused the leak. Radiators have been all plastic side tanks and aluminum cooling fins for years now. They often last life of car. The all copper rads often didn’t do that. Improvements in glycol mix additives might be reason for that change. Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 In my case, one of the "plastic seals" simply jumped out of the case and leaked all coolant in a few seconds. The second one (not OEM) cracked after an oil filter change, and started to leak engine oil. I believe this part design brings a low reliability to this good engine. Let's try this part upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) If your plugs are close to change interval. Good time to change them out when you are in there that deep. If metal part existed at time my wife’s failed, I may have gone with it. Metal is almost always superior to plastic. Curious, how many kilometres were the failures at. The oil pressure is surprisingly high on the 3.6 engine. Stay with 5w20 specified oil. Heat exchanger only has single O ring seals for oil, would have expected double seals. Operating range is 30 psi warm to 130 cold, 1200-3500 rpms (Haynes manual specs).. Multiply by 6.9 for conversion, so 206-896 for kpa. Edited November 25, 2021 by John/Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 My manual recommends 5W30 here in Brazil, probably due to (much) higher ambient temperatures. The coolant seal "explosion" happened after a huge uphill short trip (0 to 1500m above seal level in 30 kms). Luckily I was coasting at low speed. Reasonably low mileage (100k km / 60k miles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14WhiteRTRallye Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Dorman site... Made in USA - engineered and manufactured in the United States, and backed by a team of product experts with more than a century of automotive experience... Edited November 25, 2021 by 14WhiteRTRallye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) I Don´t know about US version, but my Journey is "Hecho en Mexico" ! Edited November 25, 2021 by agm2112 added images John/Horace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Also on bottom of Dorman casting is fussy but legible made in USA lettering. Visible in one of the pics on rockauto. Confirms that this definitely the best option. I’ve used Dorman stuff lots of times, never had any issues. So much automotive is China now, I just assumed. Glad to be corrected. Edited November 25, 2021 by John/Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 Bought one from Rockauto. Expected delivery at Dec 21. I will replace it by myself and post some pictures. Until there, I´ll keep cleaning the oil spit on the garage floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, agm2112 said: Bought one from Rockauto. Expected delivery at Dec 21. I will replace it by myself and post some pictures. Until there, I´ll keep cleaning the oil spit on the garage floor. IF you are sure of the production date you should be fine with filter and filter cap with the new part. IF you have the early style filter and cap, you will need to get the '14 and newer filter and cap. GOOD LUCK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Another ton of RTV while I wait for DHL delivery. This is my brand new crack. The seal "escaped" through the crack and starter another oil leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Is this where it mounts to the engine OR where it mounts the oil cooler? I've not taken one down to know myself from your excellent PIC's (but sorry to see such a fault). IF the cooler side, I'd think seriously about getting a new oil cooler also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Mine is cracked on both sides, on the cooler side and engine side. The other part I have (not OEM)is cracked, but I can´t figure out where (It leaks a LOT of oil). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, agm2112 said: Mine is cracked on both sides, on the cooler side and engine side. The other part I have (not OEM)is cracked, but I can´t figure out where (It leaks a LOT of oil). It sure will leak LOTS when engine is running and also at off time drain down . Did the proper tightening torque specs get used when this unit was replaced? Also since it was a plastic part (and even metal units) they should be tightened down in a pattern to EVENLY draw down the both parts involved. I've seen a couple of these motors "opened up" to see where / how the filter/cooler sits, and I don't look forward to wanting to do such replacement of this part on a regular basis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 glad i bought the mopar max lifetime warranty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, 2late4u said: glad i bought the mopar max lifetime warranty All well and good if one buys it new from a dealer and buys that additional "insurance" coverage. BUT for the many of us who choose to buy used from private parties, we have to be prepared to fork out the $$ or DIY (of which I mostly do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, 5rebel9 said: All well and good if one buys it new from a dealer and buys that additional "insurance" coverage. BUT for the many of us who choose to buy used from private parties, we have to be prepared to fork out the $$ or DIY (of which I mostly do). `i wasnt trying to be uppity, I just was saying with cars getting so expensive and complex that is why i purchased the warranty, i still like to work on my vehicles but most repairs are getting past my ability or ambitions.. 5rebel9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 My Dorman part is already at Rio de Janeiro for delivery (my mother house - I live on the countryside ~220km) . This DHL service is really fast. Hope my Journey´s oil cooler survives this last trip on the weekend. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, agm2112 said: My Dorman part is already at Rio de Janeiro for delivery (my mother house - I live on the countryside ~220km) . This DHL service is really fast. Hope my Journey´s oil cooler survives this last trip on the weekend. U$ 182,00 on import taxes. Holy crap. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 here in the states we tend to forget how expensive things are in other regions of the world, we bitch about a $20 delivery charge if we get charged that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agm2112 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) Finally in hands. Hope to replace on weekend (Christmas ?). Seems very good stuff. Edited December 20, 2021 by agm2112 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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