DJK09SXT Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 My journey came with Kumho highway radial tires. I bought the car used and have put several miles on it since it was purchased. I am in need of a new set before winter. While at the dodge dealership i learned a journey can have passenger car or light truck tires on it. The Kumho tires i currently have are passenger car tires. Is anyone running light truck tires? If so what kind and how does the car handle with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbwooly Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 My journey came with Kumho highway radial tires. I bought the car used and have put several miles on it since it was purchased. I am in need of a new set before winter. While at the dodge dealership i learned a journey can have passenger car or light truck tires on it. The Kumho tires i currently have are passenger car tires. Is anyone running light truck tires? If so what kind and how does the car handle with them? Just returned from a vacation to Branson, MO. Learned an awful lot about the Journey Tires on our trip. We hit something on the road and ruined a tire. Found out that you can not buy a 19" tire anywhere. We tried Walmart, Sams Club, Every other tire store after being at the Dodge Dealer. The Dodge dealer in Branson told us that they didn't have a tire, and couldn't get us one. Running on the spare was making the AWD unit run very hot and stinky. Blew the tire on Sunday, and got a new set of tires shipped in and mounted from Tirerack.com on Friday. Ruined my week. Thank you Dodge for all help on this. NOT!! What really bugs me is that the Dodge dealer still had more new Journys on the lot with the same tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood011 Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 The P225/55 R19's seem to be only made by Kuhmo, and only one model. Check the tire forums for plenty of threads regarding the use of winter tires. About the only thing you can do is to buy a second set of rims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelThunder Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I wanted to try the light truck also. I just burst a tire last monday when I hit a sharp rock.any inputs would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
journey_md Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 The wheel lug nuts are exposed or not exposed on a R/T ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneframe Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 The wheel lug nuts are exposed or not exposed on a R/T ?? Are you asking if there is a wheel cover hiding the lug nuts? If so, then no. The lug nuts can be seen and readily accessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Lowthorp Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Some idiot dodge engineer and some slick Kuhmo tire guy must have made some under-the-table deal on the 19" tires on the Dodge Journey's. The 225 55 19 is a totally unique size, made only by Kuhmo for only the Dodge Journey. WHY?? It's not an exotic sports car, it's a cross-over SUV, family vehicle. Whey on earth would you put a 100% unique tire size on it? I had to put 2 new one's on my wife's...I spent an hour on the phone trying to find someone who had them in stock. I finally found a large Dodge dealer that had 2. I drove an hour and half and paid $575 to have 2 new tires put on........my a@@ still hurts........ Love the car, other than this......The fact that Dodge did this, tells me they have no regard for the consumer....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) Some idiot dodge engineer and some slick Kuhmo tire guy must have made some under-the-table deal on the 19" tires on the Dodge Journey's. The 225 55 19 is a totally unique size, made only by Kuhmo for only the Dodge Journey. WHY?? It's not an exotic sports car, it's a cross-over SUV, family vehicle. Whey on earth would you put a 100% unique tire size on it? I had to put 2 new one's on my wife's...I spent an hour on the phone trying to find someone who had them in stock. I finally found a large Dodge dealer that had 2. I drove an hour and half and paid $575 to have 2 new tires put on........my a@@ still hurts........ Love the car, other than this......The fact that Dodge did this, tells me they have no regard for the consumer....... you can downgrade to 17'' wheels and you will have plentiful choice of tires. Tires size for the Journey is 225/65R17 and tirerack.com offer about 40 .. that's a lot ...this is a very common size. This is perhaps one of the reasons why there is a lot of 19'' Journey wheels on Ebay Edited August 18, 2010 by Burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanFrach Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Thankfully, I have Kuhmo P225/65/R17's. Maybe somebody had a clue and changed the rims before I bought my '09. Unless the '09's had 17" to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTroy Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I've had my 2009 Journey SXT since May '08 and I really do like the car. 25,600 so far and not many complaints. I just replaced my front rotors and pads, and cleaned up the rears. Now I'm looking for tires and am running into the Kumho/Dodge bed-partners problem. If I had known when I bought the car... I would have gotten a different size wheel. I did have one tire damaged by a large metal shard, and the dealer replaced it no charge - I have the tire warranty. I will be getting winter wheels/tires set soon, size 225/65/17. Any other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I've had my 2009 Journey SXT since May '08 and I really do like the car. 25,600 so far and not many complaints. I just replaced my front rotors and pads, and cleaned up the rears. Now I'm looking for tires and am running into the Kumho/Dodge bed-partners problem. If I had known when I bought the car... I would have gotten a different size wheel. I did have one tire damaged by a large metal shard, and the dealer replaced it no charge - I have the tire warranty. I will be getting winter wheels/tires set soon, size 225/65/17. Any other suggestions? for summer i use 225/65/17 and for winter i use size 225/70/16 ( yokohama geolander ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTroy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 for summer i use 225/65/17 and for winter i use size 225/70/16 ( yokohama geolander ) Which Geolanders do you use? And I assume you like them. Is your Journey FWD or AWD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Which Geolanders do you use? And I assume you like them. Is your Journey FWD or AWD? My Journey is FWD , i will tell you tomorrow witch exact model of Geolanders i have , they are in storage right now but accessible .... i can tell you so far that they are very good in the snow/slush and i noticed that they are very silent for a winter tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJK09SXT Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I've had my 2009 Journey SXT since May '08 and I really do like the car. 25,600 so far and not many complaints. I just replaced my front rotors and pads, and cleaned up the rears. Now I'm looking for tires and am running into the Kumho/Dodge bed-partners problem. If I had known when I bought the car... I would have gotten a different size wheel. I did have one tire damaged by a large metal shard, and the dealer replaced it no charge - I have the tire warranty. I will be getting winter wheels/tires set soon, size 225/65/17. Any other suggestions? I went with 225/65/17 Firestone Destination LE. Have had them about a month now. They aren't much louder than the Kumho's that came with the car, and have really good winter ratings. The tire dealer showed me his on his Tahoe, they had about 35000 miles on them and looked in good shape. Sold me a set of 4 for 112 each. Live in Omaha and winter is right around the corner. Wanted an aggressive SUV tire. These Firestones actually make the car ride smoother on these concrete roads and they have an aggressive footprint as well as some rugged sidewall tread. So far I am impressed. Also i ordered a 17" OEM rim to match the 4 on the Journey. The plan is to mount it under the car and get rid of the donut. I pulled down the donut and the plastic molding and tried putting it up under, but the tire rested on the exhaust resonator. Looking into putting Flowmaster hush power mufflers on next month and re routing the exhaust so it clears the spare. Dodge really wasn't thinking when they built this crossover. Some people just use it as a daily driver but we travel cross country alot, and late at night with the kids. I need a dependable full size spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRSM Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hi, I was wondering if tires 265/55/19 make a difference...anyone tried this on 19" R/T? It is just 1 cm wider so it should work - and it is much easier to buy ones. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Which Geolanders do you use? And I assume you like them. Is your Journey FWD or AWD? sorry for the delay ... this what i use for winter Yokohama Geolandar G072 http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geolandar_GO72.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linaso Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 aiHi, I was wondering if tires 265/55/19 make a difference...anyone tried this on 19" R/T? It is just 1 cm wider so it should work - and it is much easier to buy ones. Greg Actually 265's are 40mm or about 1-9/16" wider than 225's and the using a 265/55 tire on a 19" rim would be much too tall. 265/55's sidewalls would be about 7/8" taller which would throw your speedometer off probably by a few mph. A more practical solution would be to use a 245/50/19. 245/50/19's would be just under 3/4" wider than stock 225/55/19's and only about 3/64" less height in sidewall. That would be negligible in speedo accuracy, probably less that 1/2 mph difference. Another option would be to switch to 18" wheels. You could use 225/60/18's which again would be a negligible difference in the speedo compared to 225/55/19's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelThunder Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 wow those geolanders are epic! I should have done more research before i bought my michelin energy lx4's. anyways are they really good during winter? I might consider getting those for my winter tires. :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRSM Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Actually 265's are 40mm or about 1-9/16" wider than 225's and the using a 265/55 tire on a 19" rim would be much too tall. 265/55's sidewalls would be about 7/8" taller which would throw your speedometer off probably by a few mph. A more practical solution would be to use a 245/50/19. 245/50/19's would be just under 3/4" wider than stock 225/55/19's and only about 3/64" less height in sidewall. That would be negligible in speedo accuracy, probably less that 1/2 mph difference. Another option would be to switch to 18" wheels. You could use 225/60/18's which again would be a negligible difference in the speedo compared to 225/55/19's. Yes you are right, my mistake with 265 - but what is important it seems I do not have to stick to 225/55/19 for winter:) I found some 235/55R19 (speed accu +1,78%) but I will look for 245/50/19 (speed acuu +0,34%) . Thx for the reply. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadb1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I have a local tire dealer here that got the stock 19" tire and I got them for $150 each mounted and balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanFrach Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I just got Yokohama AS530 all season tires. So far I like them a lot. Smooth ride and good traction. http://www.bestcovery.com/yokohama-as530-all-season-tires?whybest=3&best=11164 I got them at NTB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRSM Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Actually 265's are 40mm or about 1-9/16" wider than 225's and the using a 265/55 tire on a 19" rim would be much too tall. 265/55's sidewalls would be about 7/8" taller which would throw your speedometer off probably by a few mph. A more practical solution would be to use a 245/50/19. 245/50/19's would be just under 3/4" wider than stock 225/55/19's and only about 3/64" less height in sidewall. That would be negligible in speedo accuracy, probably less that 1/2 mph difference. Another option would be to switch to 18" wheels. You could use 225/60/18's which again would be a negligible difference in the speedo compared to 225/55/19's. Ok so one final question - did you try 245/50/19 or any R19 different then standard one?? GRSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCS1 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 My journey came with Kumho highway radial tires. I bought the car used and have put several miles on it since it was purchased. I am in need of a new set before winter. While at the dodge dealership i learned a journey can have passenger car or light truck tires on it. The Kumho tires i currently have are passenger car tires. Is anyone running light truck tires? If so what kind and how does the car handle with them? I just installed a set of almost new Hakapillitta R 235/60R-18" ice tires that are rated for an SUV extra load off my previous Jeep Grand Cherokee. I had a hard time finding a set of reasonably (?) priced 18" allow rims that would fit my RT model but the end result appears fine. I paid $160/wheel for MPW 210-8821B rims. While the tires are heavier than the stock 19" Kumo's the rims are lighter than the stock wheels so the two seem to balance themselves out. I only have a 100k or so since installation but to me it seemed like the stiffer tires actually made the vehicle handle a little better. The tire diameter looked about the same and when I checked the speedo reading aginst my GPS I found at 100kph the speedo reads about 2 kph high so in fact the 18" Hak's are slightly smaller than the 19" Kumo's. Close enough for me. The tire dealer assured me that the wider 235 tires wouldn't create an interference issue and it certainly looks fine. I actually like the look of the 18" alloy rims with the 235/60 tires better than the stock 19" rims with the Kumo 225/55 tires as it looks more aggresive and in fact makes the vehicle look closer to a SUV than a Cross-over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kech Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 I have a local tire dealer here that got the stock 19" tire and I got them for $150 each mounted and balanced. I'm a bit puzzled.... My 2010 Journey SXT came with all season P255/65R17 and they gave me winter tires P225/70R16. I just had the winter tires put on yesterday, but this morning I decided to use a tire down size calculator and found out that there is a 5.5% Diameter difference between the 2 sizes. There shouldn't be more than a 3% difference. Won't this affect my brakes?? Any comments would be appreciated...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Richard Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Looked on Tire Rack and there is an optional size for the 19" rims which has a few tire choices. I hate the Kumho tires, but will replace them with something better only when they have worn down a bit more. The optoinal tire size is 245/50/19. Also for snow tires, there are quite a few options. Steel wheels are avialable in 16" size (from the base model) and there are a few tire choices available. There are also 17 and 18 inch sizes available but aluminum wheels will be needed for thiese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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