bhath Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hello everyone! I'm from the USA but I've been living in Italy for nigh on 20 years. My father was very faithful to Chrysler over the years and we had a series of Dodge Dart variants around for many, many years as I was growing up. I actually drove his '71 Dart round trip cross country in 1989 and 1991 (yes, twice!) only having to replace the alternator on one of those trips. I was on a student budget back then so I did it myself. As you may have heard, Fiat and Chrysler/Dodge are now in bed together and we're starting to see Fiat-branded Chrysler products here in Italy. The very first is going to be the Dodge Journey which has been renamed the "Fiat Freemont" over here. I ordered one about a month ago and it should be arriving in about another month to a month and a half. It's going to be the Fiat Freemont not only in Italy but I believe the rest of Europe and in Brazil as well where the Fiat brand is well known. There's an Italian forum for the Fiat Freemont which has just started up. If anyone wants to bring the voice of experience over to this side of the pond, it would be more than welcome. The forum is at: http://freemontisti.altervista.org . I'm looking forward to driving a Dodge again! Best regards, Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhath Posted September 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Oh, I forgot to mention that for now it's all Fiat MultiJet2 diesel engines over here. 140hp and 170hp. Torque is much higher on the diesels so the HP rating is misleading. 0-60 times are 10 seconds for the 170hp and 11.2 for the 140 CV diesels. Fiat claims about 37mpg (28.3mpg city/44mpg highway), the leading Italian car magazine, Quattroruote (means 4 wheels), measured about 27mpg (27mpg city/31.3mpg highway) in real-world tests. There's also an active Facebook group at www.facebook.com/FiatFreemont (again, in Italian). -Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramfrank Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Keep in mind that on the continent those MPG ratings would be based on Imperial gallons, so the difference could well be just that of the conversion from Imperial to US measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhath Posted September 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Keep in mind that on the continent those MPG ratings would be based on Imperial gallons, so the difference could well be just that of the conversion from Imperial to US measure. Fair 'nuff. I used this link for the conversions: http://www.vangeyn.net/mpg/ . It's not clear whether it's imperial or US. The KM/l values are accurate though. -Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltydog Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Very cool! can't wait too see pic's!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Keep in mind that on the continent those MPG ratings would be based on Imperial gallons, so the difference could well be just that of the conversion from Imperial to US measure. My Journey has the Volkswagen diesel engine (140 hp), and mileage is about 24 (city) and 31 (Hwy). My display setting is in l/100 km., and I used this web to convert www.convertworld.com That's more realistic than mileage announced in commercials, where there are no hills, nor baggage neither passengers inside the car (just the driver), don't even think about using air/condition, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I would have thought diesel would be better mpg. My fwd Pentastar is averaging 21 mpg US/25 mpg CAN(imperial) after only 5 wks on the road in the city. I use the fill and hand calculate method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhath Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I would have thought diesel would be better mpg. To be fair highway speed here is 130km/hr which is 81miles/hr so the Cx is going to be more important than in the USA/Canada. At 90 km/hr the mileage is much, much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Your right-higher speed limits don't help and similarly the habit of the person behind you wanting to exceed it causes poor mpg. Here in Ontario legal hiway is 100 km/h (62 mph US) and average legal urban street is 50km/h (31 mph US). I live in an area with quite a few hills (2-6% grades) at the southwestern end of Lake Ontario and my hiway driving is limited to abt 100 km a month. Again traffic,geography and personal driving habits play a major role in mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Your right-higher speed limits don't help and similarly the habit of the person behind you wanting to exceed it causes poor mpg. Here in Ontario legal hiway is 100 km/h (62 mph US) and average legal urban street is 50km/h (31 mph US). I live in an area with quite a few hills (2-6% grades) at the southwestern end of Lake Ontario and my hiway driving is limited to abt 100 km a month. Again traffic,geography and personal driving habits play a major role in mpg. I couldn´t be more agreed with your last sentence. Commercial figures about mileage are just to let us (customers) to compare between different cars. We shouldn't think about those figures in terms of "whole truth". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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