pantheman75 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Why is it that when I look at window stickers for 2011 and 2012 Dodge Journeys many say that they include "6 Infinity® Premium Speakers with Subwoofer" but when you get inside the car the badging by the speakers says "Alpine"? Here are two window stickers of cars I've seen in person that say "Infinity" on the sticker and "Alpine" inside the car: http://www.Dodge.com/hostc/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=3D4PG3FG0BT506274 http://www.Dodge.com/hostc/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=3C4PDCEG7CT228546 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaltso Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Everything I can find says that the premium system is Alpine, but my window sticker also says Infinity. Maybe the older system was Infinity and they just never updated the window sticker listing? http://caraudiomag.com/articles/alpine-supplies-premium-branded-audio-systems-chrysler-and-dodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheman75 Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I just called Dodge; their documentation says that they're definitely Infinity speakers according to their documentation, but then had no explanation of why the interiors of existing cars on the lots are badged as "Alpine". They said that the dealership should have more information (LOL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estoyloco Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) On the side note.... where is the subwoofer? I couldn't find it. Edited January 2, 2012 by Estoyloco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheman75 Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 On the side note.... where is the subwoofer? I couldn't find it. I think it's in the trunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20journey11 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Subwoofer is in the trunk, driver's side behind the grill. Not much of one as it is only a 6" sub. Has about as much punch as the 6x9's in the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheman75 Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Subwoofer is in the trunk, driver's side behind the grill. Not much of one as it is only a 6" sub. Has about as much punch as the 6x9's in the door. According to the link generaltso provided above, it has an 8" subwoofer: http://caraudiomag.com/articles/alpine-supplies-premium-branded-audio-systems-chrysler-and-dodge Do you have a link where it says that the Journey comes with a 6" subwoofer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20journey11 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) According to the link generaltso provided above, it has an 8" subwoofer: http://caraudiomag.c...ysler-and-dodge Do you have a link where it says that the Journey comes with a 6" subwoofer? I was told by the salesman the sub was 6". I haven't seen anything that does support that. The window sticker just says w/subwoofer. The brochure has nothing on it either. Not sure if Crutchfield or another stereo site would have specs on factory systems or not. The link generaltso provided says 8", but also says it has 6x9 shelf speakers. 6x9 are in the rear doors also. Edited January 4, 2012 by 20journey11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBK Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 My 2012 R/T has Alpine speakers, not Infinity. Fine with me, IMHO Alpine is a step up from Infinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBK Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Dodge's website also says it is an Alpine system: http://www.dodge.com/en/2012/journey/technology/entertainment/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaltso Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 My 2012 R/T has Alpine speakers, not Infinity. Fine with me, IMHO Alpine is a step up from Infinity. I know the badges say Alpine, but does your window sticker say Infinity? I have no doubt that it's an Alpine system, but it's weird that the window stickers all seem to say that they're Infinity speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBK Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't remember what my window sticker said. I do seem to remember seeing Infinity mentioned somewhere on the website (perhaps on the "build your Journey" configurator). Truthfully, I have been underwhelmed with Harman International's automotive car offerings for the last few years (Infinity is one of Harman's brands). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBK Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Automotive *sound* offerings is what I meant to say above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobguy Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 My 2012 R/T has Alpine speakers, not Infinity. Fine with me, IMHO Alpine is a step up from Infinity. Just upgraded from an '09 to a '12. The Infinity system was infinitely better than the Alpine system. I'm incredibly frustrated at the terrible Alpine system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsrule65 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) This may explain some of the confusion: I believe early production 2011 Journeys had Infinity then Chrysler went witn Alpine and some units may have left with a Infinity speakers but the maroney label was updated to Alpine: Alpine Electronics Supplies Premium Branded Audio System to 2011 Dodge Vehicles Back January 11, 2011 7.1 surround – The sound of high performance DETROIT, (Jan. 11, 2011) – Alpine Electronics of America, Inc., the industry-leading provider of mobile media solutions, today announced it will supply premium branded audio systems for the all-new 2011 Dodge Durango and Dodge Charger, and the redesigned 2011 Dodge Journey. The three vehicles were revealed at the 2010 Los Angeles Auto Show. Alpine created two custom audio systems for Dodge including a 7.1 channel surround sound system available on the Durango and Charger, and a premium audio system available on the Charger and Journey. Each of the 2011 Dodge Durango, Charger and Journey models feature premium speakers that have been developed to meet both Chrysler Group LLC’s and Alpine’s exacting standards. This has resulted in the use of Impregnated Polypropylene diaphragms on each vehicle, and a custom subwoofer designed specifically for the package tray of the new Dodge Charger. The surround sound amplifier features fast acting limiters, speed dependent volume and advanced loudness contours. Additional features specific to vehicle and trim level are listed below: 2011 Dodge Durango 7.1 Channel Surround Sound System Standard on the R/T, Crew & Citadel 12-channel surround sound amplifier with 506 watts of power Two 25mm silk dome tweeters 3.5” center channel speaker Two 6x9” front door speakers Two 6.5” rear door surround speakers Two 2.5” surround speakers in the D pillar 8” DVC subwoofer in dedicated enclosure under the load floor 2011 Dodge Charger 7.1 Channel Surround Sound System Included with R/T Max & Enforcer packages on all trim levels 12-channel surround sound amplifier with 506 watts of power Three 3.5” front speakers including center channel Two 6x9” front door speakers Two 3.5” rear door surround speakers Two 6x9” rear shelf surround speakers 8” DVC subwoofer Alpine Premium Audio System Included with Rallye & Rallye Plus packages on SE RWD; standard on R/T RWD & R/T AWD Two 3.5” instrument panel speakers Two 6x9” front door speakers Two 6x9” rear shelf speakers 8-channel amplifier with 368 watts of power 2011 Dodge Journey Alpine Premium Audio System Optional on Mainstreet; standard on Crew, R/T & LUX Two 3.5” instrument panel speakers Two 6x9” front door speakers Two 6x9” rear door speakers 8” DVC Subwoofer in dedicated enclosure 8-channel amplifier with 386 watts of power “Alpine has a strong reputation for offering outstanding tonal balance, an evenly distributed soundstage and exquisite sound definition – and it’s more evident than ever in the 2011 Dodge Durango, Charger and Journey,” said Jim O’Neill, executive vice president, sales and marketing, Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. “Alpine developed a premium sound system customized to each vehicle, then equalized the systems to complement the vehicles acoustics with the majority of the development being completed on the road. This system not only matches the power of Dodge vehicles, but delivers the energy and excitement Dodge drivers expect on the road.” About Alpine Electronics Alpine Electronics is an automotive electronics manufacturer that provides consumers and leading auto makers with audio, video, navigation and driver assistance products. The company specializes in system integration solutions with innovative vehicle entertainment and information technologies. Alpine’s R&D and manufacturing facilities in Japan, China, Europe and North America ensure that all products address the real world requirements of drivers in each market. The company is committed to developing safe, comfortable and eco-friendly automotive electronics products. For more information about Alpine’s Premium Sound Systems, visit www.ExperienceAlpine.com. Reach us on: Twitter |Facebook Notice: Product information is based upon current information at the time of writing, but cannot be guaranteed. All designs, features, specifications and delivery dates are subject to change without notice. Edited May 11, 2012 by dolphinsrule65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsrule65 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Also, clink on the link and then pick the Journey pic and it will show u a picture of the system and a sound demo: http://www.experiencealpine.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyke Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) Also, clink on the link and then pick the Journey pic and it will show u a picture of the system and a sound demo: http://www.experiencealpine.com/ Funny thing is, when you look through their gallery and system layout pages, for the Journey, it says that it has the 9 speaker, 7.1 surround sound system, so it doesn't even look like Alpine know what they are giving Dodge, let alone Dodge knowing. In any case, my sticker shows an Infinity setup, and alpine badging inside, but the sound is still nowhere close to the premium system that was in my Caliber Edit: and to make it more interesting, on the Dodge.ca site, they list the premium system as being from Boston Accoustics. Go Fig.... Edited May 11, 2012 by Psyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drb227 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Oh how I wish I had that fantastic Boston Acoustics system from my Caliber . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsrule65 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 "Funny thing is, when you look through their gallery and system layout pages, for the Journey, it says that it has the 9 speaker, 7.1 surround sound system, so it doesn't even look like Alpine know what they are giving Dodge, let alone Dodge knowing" Not sure what picture you looked at: http://www.experiencealpine.com/ THEN CLICK ON THE DODGE LOGO, THEN CLICK ON THE PIC OF THE JOURNEY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, it shows you a pic, of 4 6x9 speakers, 2 3.5speakers, the amp and the woofer. " Dodge including a 7.1 channel surround sound system available on the Durango and Charger, and a premium audio system available on the Charger and Journey" THE 7.1 IS ONLY ON THE DURANGO AND CHARGER.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsrule65 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 After you click on DODGE logo, then the JOURNEY logo and after the picture pulls up. If you click on the left side where you see like a siloutte of the speakers, the Journey will pop up and shows you a cross section fo were everthing is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyke Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Not sure what picture you looked at: http://www.experiencealpine.com/ THEN CLICK ON THE DODGE LOGO, THEN CLICK ON THE PIC OF THE JOURNEY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, it shows you a pic, of 4 6x9 speakers, 2 3.5speakers, the amp and the woofer. " Dodge including a 7.1 channel surround sound system available on the Durango and Charger, and a premium audio system available on the Charger and Journey" THE 7.1 IS ONLY ON THE DURANGO AND CHARGER.... After you click on DODGE logo, then the JOURNEY logo and after the picture pulls up. If you click on the left side where you see like a siloutte of the speakers, the Journey will pop up and shows you a cross section fo were everthing is. as I said, I clicked on system layout and gallery, but for the full sequence, I went to http://www.experiencealpine.com/ , I CLICKED ON THE DODGE LOGO, THEN CLICKED ON THE PIC OF THE JOURNEY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. I THEN SCROLLED TO THE RIGHT UNTIL I CAME TO SYSTEM LAYOUT, AND GOT THIS PICTURE PRESENTED TO ME: I THEN CLOSED THAT SCREEN AND WENT AGAIN TO THE RIGHT UNTIL I FOUND GALLERY AND CLICKED ON IT AND FOUND THIS PICTURE: Hopefully that helps you understand what I'm trying to point out, which is a presentation of a DODGE JOURNEY, with 9 speakers, and One Amp, unless you'd like to edumacate me some more. Now, I do understand that this is a probably a pretty big gaff on Alpine's side, but none the less, it presents even more confusion, particularly, as you say, THE 7.1 IS ONLY ON THE DURANGO AND CHARGER.... On a side, somewhat related note, the wife and I went to the drive in tonight to see The Avengers, and this system has no power; had seen a number of movies there with the Caliber and it was amazing for it. Also extremely annoying that the DJ would turn off, even when in Acc, every 30 minutes or so and that the interior lighting would only dim if the external lights were on... had to use my had to block out the gauges. Ah well, amazing movie none the less :D cheers! Steph S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsrule65 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 NO,,,that is a pic of the Charger or Durango you click back too. CLICK ON THE DODGE LOGO.....CLICK ON THE PIC OF THE JOURNEY ON THE RIGHT SIDE. OF THE PAGE. CLEARLY IN THE PIC IT PULLS UP IS THIS. A PIC OF 4 6X9 2 3/5 A WOOFER AND AMP. IF YOU LOOK AT THEN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER YOU WILL SEE SILOUTTE PIC OF THE JOURNEY.CLICK ON THAT AND IT BRINGS UP A CROSS SECTION THAT SHOWS WERE THE 6 SPEAKERS ARE AND THE AMP AND WOOFER. I see no confusion on this at all.....none....clearly Alpine and Dodge's press release says: a premium sound system,,,,,NOT 7.1 OR 9 SPEAKERS. IN THE JOURNEY. THE SYSTEM DEMOSTRATION ON ALPINE CLEALRY SHOWS ONLY 6 SPEAKERS. AND IT SHOWS EXACTLY WERE THEY ARE LOCATED. THE AMP IS UNDER THE PASSENGER SEAT, THE WOOFER IS THE DRIVER REAR COMPARTMENT AND THE SPEAKERS ARE IN THE DOORS AND 3.5 ARE IN THE DASH. DODGE AND ALPINE DID THE BEST THAT THEY COULD WITH THE LIMITATIONS OF THE CAR. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IN BOTH REAR/FRONT DOORS THERE IS A MOUNTING DEPTH PROBLEM OF 2.6" ONLY,WHICH LIMITS YOU GREATLY ON SPEAKER REPLACEMENTS. (TRY AND FIND SOME 6X9 WITH THAT MOUNTING DEPTH,NEARLY IMPOSSIABLE) THE WOOF AND AMP ARE WHAT THEY ARE. MAYBE IN THE REDESIGN THEY WILL TRY AND PUT A BETTER SYSTEM IN IT,BUT FOR NOW THIS IS WHAT THE FACTORY GIVES YOU AND UPGRADED FROM THE BASS SYSTEM, BETTER SPEAKERS AND WOOF AND AMP. LETS REMEMBER THAT THE AVP,SE,SXT ALL ARE STANDARD WITH NOTHING MORE THEN 6 CHEAP SPEAKERS,WHICH I HAVE AND THIS SYSTEM IS CLEARLY AND UPGRADE FROM THAT, A BETTER PREMIUM SYSTEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsrule65 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 AND IF YOU NOTICED IN THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THAT GALLERY PIC YOU HAVE, IT SAYS....DO YOU WANT TO GO BUILD YOUR DURANGO... Alpine has some touchup in the art dept to do....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyke Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 *sigh* whatever dude. You win. cheers! Steph S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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