dethdeks Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) so im new to this forums and was actually searching for mods i could do to my 09 sxt awd 3.5 journey and stumbled across a post talking about swapping the front grill with a freemont now i seen a freemont a while back on wikipedia and was kinda shocked that the journey had a brother and then thought the grille was cool but never thought about swapping it onto mine. the only two issues that i can think may arise from this is 1) finding one as i live in canada and 2) from the pictures of the freemont grill it almost looks like it may be a two piece assembly where as the DJ is only a single piece assembly. my questions are 1) anyone have a website i can get my hands on a grille assembly and 2) am i wrong in thinking the freemont grill is a 2 piece assembly? when i say a 2 piece grill i mean red box is one piece green box is second piece or is it all one piece like the DJ? Thanks in advance Edited September 29, 2013 by dethdeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I cannot give a definitive answer, but, while they are two pieces (not sure about the grid though), trying to gently pull the whole grille moves, so I think they're to be considered a single piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rgwog Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I tried to do an extensive search for a grille and came up empty. Even tried the Fiat site and got nothing. The only thing I can think of is seeing if a local Dodge shop can cross reference a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy4ever Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Here are some informations for You: The Fiat grille is an assembly of the red and green area shown in the picture. Replacing the Journey grille should be no problem, because it works perfect in the other direction. A lot of Freemont owners in Germany already did the conversion successfully. Here is a link to the German Freemont forum: http://www.freemont.de/design/exterieur/fiat-symbol-t1869/index3.html In post #48 there are pictures which compare both grilles, Fiat and Dodge. If You wanna look for Fiat spare part numbers, goto google and type in " fiat eper online ". Eper is the multilingual electronic parts catalog from Fiat. There are some sites out there, which offer access to it. Rgwog and Viking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 thanks toy4ever that helps a lot. now all I need to do is find a part number for this grille so I can have my work see if we can order one for me. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 so after doing a little bit of research i think i may have found the part code for the grille. im not to sure if its from a 2009 or if its a 2013 but if someone has a bit more knowledge of this here`s the two codes i found K1TX83TZZAA and 70722-010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 ok so those two codes i found are not pulling anything up here at work (i work at the local dodge dealership) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy4ever Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Code for grille K1TX83TZZAA is right. Exact the same I got out of EPER. The second part You need is the Fiat logo part# 51785573. Interesting that You can not order the parts, because they come from the same factory in Mexico as the DJ´s. Edited October 2, 2013 by Toy4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Code for grille K1TX83TZZAA is right. Exact the same I got out of EPER. The second part You need is the Fiat logo part# 51785573. Interesting that You can not order the parts, because they come from the same factory in Mexico as the DJ´ Yeah I'm not to sure why this is either. I took both part numbers to my parts department and neither number pulled up anything. so i may end up having to find someone on here that would be willing to sell me a grille assembly. :spiteful: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 so after doing a little bit of digging i have managed to find the grille assembly. located here http://www.factorychryslerparts.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_product=4394213&ukey_assembly=626317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy4ever Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Holy crap, the parts are cheap at this place. Then dealer price in Germany for the grille is 290 Euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 yeah i just checked it at work and with work discount after taxs and everything its $366.71 CAD also for the part number my work has it as the almost exact same part number except for the last digit is a B not an A the one i was qouted on its parts number is 1TX83TZZAB. on the website its only $265 shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGBOX Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 $80 + shipping on E-bay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171145090189 Its made in China, but a lot cheaper than OEM, even with your discount. I would never put a cheap mechanical or structural part on my car, but cosmetics is fine and won't affect the safety of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog1911 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Is this the grill shell or billet grill inserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 its the whole assembly the shell and grill inserts. as well as this is a complete swap out grill not a bolt on style like the ebay one that frog was posting.(not trying to sound like bashing on frog) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomari Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 in related to this topic, has anyone knows if the front bottom bumper grille of the journey 2012 rt is the same size with the 2013 journey rt? i just saw a grill insert on ebay saying the grill only fits the journey 2013 rt model, and my vehicle is 2012 rt, anyone could help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemus Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 in related to this topic, has anyone knows if the front bottom bumper grille of the journey 2012 rt is the same size with the 2013 journey rt? i just saw a grill insert on ebay saying the grill only fits the journey 2013 rt model, and my vehicle is 2012 rt, anyone could help? And if anybody can tell if 2014 is the same to 2012-2013? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog1911 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Did anyone order the Freemont grill yet in the States? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I prefer the dodge grill over the fiat grill now that I have seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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