AaronC Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Hi -- So we bought our 2012 used a few months ago and I my hitch is coming tomorrow. I have been researching how to properly wire mine up... i looked on Etrailer and found a nice wiring assembly but then found some other info on here, etc that some DJ's have a towing prep package already there near the spare tire. So i got under there last night to see if mine had this there, low and behold I found that wiring right under there... so i think this is good news for me. So a few questions: 1. What do i need to buy to be able to use this factory installed wiring harness? The trailer i pull around is a standard 4 pin connection. 2. How do i disconnect this assembly from the frame under there to be able to use... I played with it for a second but didnt want to pull on it to hard and break something. 3. Do i have to take to dealer to get this flashed to use this wiring assembly, and if so it sounds like I may have to pay for this... I have seen different conversations saying some paid and others said they didnt have to? Thank you in advance for any help you can give me - Aaron .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronC Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Bump -- Anyone able to offer any help? thank you -- Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobitz68 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Sorry, I haven't tackled this task yet. You should be able to find some installs on the forum. At least that would give you and idea of who to ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 1. Does the wiring harness have the connector on it? If not, you need to get the other end to plug in to your 4 pin connector. 2. It's probably tie wrapped or taped. Just get a close look to see how it is attached. 3. Once you get it out, connect it to see if it works, if not then a dealer visit is in order. Thats all I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Probably similar to this one on my DJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronC Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Thank you all for the replies... I will get it pulled down and try to hook up a 4 pin deal to see if it fires up..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronC Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 So i tried to pull this harness off the bracket it is on but didnt have any luck and i sure didnt want to break it off. Below is what i am seeing under the bumper, next to the spare tire, this is the wiring harness for towing, correct? I am still not sure what i should be hooking up to or connecting to this to get it to work, does anyone know? Thanks again - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronC Posted April 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Someone mentioned to me that it may not be an actual towing wiring harness but instead some type of connection for sensors & such for a backup camera?? ... now i'm really confused!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpaw Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 That looks like an airbag sensor. The tow wiring harness shouldn't have anything on it other than the dummy plug to hold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleaver Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 It doesn't look like someone already installed the trailer wiring harness. Mine was just tossed in the back when I got mine new from the dealership. I ended up installing it (took about 10 minutes) and then hooked up the trailer. That was when i found out that the vehicle needed to be flashed for it to work. I ended up getting it done for free since I convinced the dealership they should have done it in the first place. Bottom line, if you don't see a 4 pin connector back there already, you don't have the trailer wiring harness installed. Luckily it is a plug and play system and very easy to install. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronC Posted April 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Thank you very much Darkpaw & oleaver.. I was leaning towards just buying the harness from etrailer b/c i wasnt sure if that was a real wiring harness but now after reading what you wrote I will definitely be doing so... appreciate your time to post on here about that. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Here is the connector that I found, I think it looks about the same. Does anyone have the pinout or where to get the mating connector? It does not look like this is used with the factory wiring kits that I've seen so far. I hate the idea that it's not live and that the vehicle has to be flashed before it can be used. Would not be as bad if they included the connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 It doesn't look like someone already installed the trailer wiring harness. Mine was just tossed in the back when I got mine new from the dealership. I ended up installing it (took about 10 minutes) and then hooked up the trailer. That was when i found out that the vehicle needed to be flashed for it to work. I ended up getting it done for free since I convinced the dealership they should have done it in the first place. Bottom line, if you don't see a 4 pin connector back there already, you don't have the trailer wiring harness installed. Luckily it is a plug and play system and very easy to install. Good luck! So what was included in the tow package? The only one I've found on the Mopar site was a full harness that required drilling holes in the jack box and wiring to the taillights plus two circuits to the battery. Lets assume that the connector contains Right & Left Turn/Brake lights, Tail Lights, Backup Lights and Brakes and that you get ground from the frame or no brakes and it has ground. Does it connect directly to the plug or does it wire to a controller then the plug? How much can it drive? The Factory harness from Mopar looks like it contains drivers for the lights, aux power and a brake controller all connecting to a 7 pin connector so nothing else is required. Need more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJTN12 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I have the same plug underneath. I'm hoping that means I have the tow package as it would save me a lot of grief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I have this plug on my '14 RT. Has anyone figured out what it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) It doesn't look like someone already installed the trailer wiring harness. Mine was just tossed in the back when I got mine new from the dealership. I ended up installing it (took about 10 minutes) and then hooked up the trailer. That was when i found out that the vehicle needed to be flashed for it to work. I ended up getting it done for free since I convinced the dealership they should have done it in the first place. Bottom line, if you don't see a 4 pin connector back there already, you don't have the trailer wiring harness installed. Luckily it is a plug and play system and very easy to install. Good luck! Do you have the part number off the box? It should be about a 8 digits plus two letters at the end.Thanks Edited May 27, 2014 by Timon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webslave Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 The part number for the wiring harness "kit" (includes the plug 'n play harness and the instructions in a bag) is P68080976AC and inside the bag is a part number attached directly to the harness (use this if you want just the harness and not the whole kit) P68080977AC. This kit will attach to the plug in the rear and give you the 4 pin connector. The "P" just indicates the following is a part number and you should be able to look up the kit by the number and two letters following them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I ordered the P68080976AC kit today from my local dealer as they can not find P68080977AC their system. Should be in tomorrow. Ill let you guys know how it looks and if it indeed fits once it comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 What did your dealer charge for the part and what will they charge to flash the Journey to enable it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I live in the middle of no where do we pay more then most. It was $120 Cdn. I'm not sure if the flash price yet as I have to chat with the sales team about the detailed scratching my fender on inspection and tried to hide it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Got the part in today. It will plug right into that plug by the tire. On instructions it is part AEDIT: Hard to see the instructions but the number on the bottum left of the page is PN: 68060978AA Edited May 29, 2014 by Skinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Could you take 4 close up photos of the wire area on the 3 relays and the connector to the Journey. Don't need the trailer connector since it's visible in one of your photos. I'll match that up with what I have already figure out. If the photos are clear enough I can likely make a schematic from them. I'd also like a picture of the relay brand and part number if they are marked. Traced out the wiring on the connector. The part is made by Delphi and is in their standard catalog so depending on who carries them they should not be too hard to find. The mating part is 12103974 which is the part you see the connector plugged into. All you need to turn the dummy connector into a live one is the pins and wire seals. The pin I think is 12045773 0.80-0.50 Tin Brass Tin plus the wire seals. If you interested look at the Delphi Catalog starting around page 2.12. There are two row of pins with 3 on the top and 2 on the bottom. If you have the connector facing you, wires away from you, the pins are as follows. Red (12V), White w/Orange Stripe (One of the relay drivers), Black w/Yellow Stripe (Ground) White w/Green Stripe (One of the relay drivers), White w/Gray Stripe (One of the relay drivers) The power is available even with the vehicle has not been flashed. I don't know which output drives Lt Turn/Stop, Rt Turn/Stop and Taillights until it's flashed. One of the things I don't like about the factory connections is that it looks like they use 18GA wire. That seems a bit light to me mainly for the ground. If you were going to use this cable plus a 7 pin connector it would be easy to beef up the ground and get additional power from the battery for the Aux Power, Backup Lights if used and Brakes. Edited May 31, 2014 by Timon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Devine Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 We're did you find this kit at ? And what year of journey does this fit ? I have a 2014 blacktop edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 The part number was taken from a kit in a Journey with the tow package. It should work with any Journey that has the matching connector in the rear just behind the bumper. We don't know if it's on all Journeys or just the V6 ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I got the kit from Dodge with a part number that was 68060976AA. The wire is actually 68060977AA, and the intructions I have in the pictures is kit 68060978AA. Pretty confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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