Classy Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 So has anyone thought about making a sleeper? Been poking around at these kits.. http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f38/finally-supercharged-rallye-redline-3-6l-v6-177489/ http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f38/finally-supercharged-rallye-redline-3-6l-v6-177489/ I dont have the money to do this but it sure would be cool if someone did it would have a lot of people guessing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Not sure the point of linking a challenger forum here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 The Challenger engine sits N/S; our engine sits E/W, so I doubt if there would be enough room to do this. Do you know what transmission the Challenger uses with the 3.6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 This is a FWD CUV that in stock form burns rubber as it is with the 283hp V6 - I would be driving a Challenger if I was really into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 What is a CUV? My insurance refers to it as a Sport Wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Been through this. Cross over utility vehicle. Google the differences. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecrazyfoo4u Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yeah but how awesome would it be to have 150+ more HP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Wet shot. PapaG and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Give me a break: I have never owned a CUV, or whatever, before. So, I figured some nimrod @ CR came up with this: Compact Utility Vehicle. The last one of those might have been the CJ5/7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 It has always been my understanding that a SUV is built on a truck chassis/frame where as a CUV is built on a car chassis. The DJ is on the Avenger chassis at this point however both the MOT(ministry of transport) and my insurance company list it as a truck on my paperwork. I don't care - it's what I drive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Give me a break: I have never owned a CUV, or whatever, before. So, I figured some nimrod @ CR came up with this: Compact Utility Vehicle. The last one of those might have been the CJ5/7. I don't read CR. Cross-over Utility Vehicle. CUV's are built on car platforms (uni body construction). Tradition SUV's are built on truck platforms (body on frame construction). Although the lines are getting blurred. Even though technically wrong, most manufacturers end up calling them SUV's anyway because people don't associate with CUV's as terminology intended for their vehicle. And, most insurances don't really know how to classify them...lol. True SUV's are the ones like Tahoe, Yukon, Expedition, Excursion, Armada, etc, Built on frames originally meant for trucks (Silverado, F150, F250, Titan). The Ford Explorer is a good example, originally built on the Ranger truck frame, it was a true SUV in the beginning, now it is based off the Taurus car and is really a CUV, but Ford still calls it an SUV. dhh3 and StormGrayBlackTop13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtomatoman Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Coming in late here. . . CR is just silly and steeped in opinion. The DJ is a large Avenger. Its a car (CUV). I kinda think the Pentastar DJ already is quite a sleeper. It will quietly blow the doors off of most vehicles on the road, and I feel like the suspension is quite good. When I take a corner at speed, there is almost no suspension dive. It isn't going to handle like a sports car because it is very top heavy (especially with bikes, surfboards, and gear on the roof Ha!). FWD hinders some, and while AWD may be better, its heavy and can be just another thing to cause problems. I once entered an off ramp intended for 25mph at 60mph unintentionally, the brakes and suspension handled that situation well enough to keep me alive, keep my DJ on the road, and the impress the passengers in the back seat with its performance. I looked pretty stupid, but my DJ saved my @$$. I have been happy with my purchase since 2011. Still runs like the day I brought it home. Peace. dhh3 and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 My 94 jeep grand cherokee is an suv but on a unibody I had a 97 explorer and it was also unibody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 You are correct that your 94 GC is a unibody, as was the Cherokee that was downsized around 1984. However, your 97 Explorer definitely had a frame. I had a 2003 Eddie Bauer and a 96 Sport and they both had frames. In fact, all Explorers had frames until they came out with that ugly thing based on a Taurus which is based on a Volvo S90, back when Ford owned Volvo. Whew! The Taurus X should have been called an Explorer. There is my 2 cents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 You could be right I never lifted it on my dads hoist I got it fre and flogged it for 1500$ to upgrade my jeep lmao. I hated it it was so ugly. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 If you can put a body lift on it, it is an SUV. If not? CUV. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 I can put a body lift on my grand cherokee but its such a long list id rather not get into that lol. Im sticking to my guns my jeep is an suv, what good is a lift kit in a jeep that sees no off road unless you call going to a lake off roading. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 When I was in the Air Force, stationed @ Eglin AFB, there was a bay down there called Boggy Bayou. All the 4x4s were jacked up so high you needed a few plastic milk boxes or a small step ladder just to get in the damn things. Us Yankees referred to them as Boggy Boy Trucks. Maybe that was an honor. BTW, does the Avenger have the same wheel base as the DJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Google is your friend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) All I'm saying is the definitions. SUV, body on frame. CUV, unibody. Jeep is a different animal altogether. Call them what you want. I really don't care. Heck, my insurance says my DJ is a truck. Go look for filters for a DJ on those Walmart electronic parts things in the oil section, the DJ is in the truck menu with the ram and Dakota. Call it whatever makes your man-noids happy. Just know if anyone refers to it as a SUV, I'm going to correct them. Here ya go: http://www.vehiclecharts.com/suv-comparison-chart.html As I said, the lines are blurred because there are unibody vehicles referred to as SUV's. Edited January 12, 2015 by jkeaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 All of the Jeep's since the middle 80's, when they downsized the Cherokee and then came out with the GC actually have a frame but the body is welded to the frame, not bolted: thus, a unibody. That is why you can put a lift kit on it. My Nitro was the same way, based on the second generation Liberty. Lift kits were made for both of them. I'm not sure about the newest GC, because it was in development when Diamler owned Chrysler. So, the present Jeep CG shares many parts with the Mercedes M series, as they were both being developed together. The Chrysler 300, Charger, and Challenger all sit on E Series mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ZINGA Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 The lines have definitely blurred, so much that Michigan SoS doesn't know what it is. On my registration form, I drive a Dodge Truck Station Wagon. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I consider the journey a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Like I said. Whatever makes you happy. I'll stop jonesing over it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobitz68 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 I call it a car, but I think it fits the definition of a CUV.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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