rcbuckley05 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 So today I changed the plugs on the DJ and when I went to restart the vehicle, I am getting all sorts of odd things happening. The wipers come on, check engine light, gas light and TRAC light are all on. The dashboard displays a message to push clutch and press start/stop but it's an automatic. there is a NO BUS message and no time or temperature registered. Does anyone know what I should do next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 What engine we talking about here? dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Disconnect the battery at the negative jumper connection for 10 minutes then reconnect,if that doesn't do it retrace your previous work to make sure you did knock a connecter off in the process. dhh3 and 2late4u 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Reset the system by disconnecting the negative terminal on your battery for 15 minutes or so. And, make sure that the plugs that you used are the ones recommended by Mopar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Wow! 3 posts at a time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yeah. I was just going t o say that, if he had a V6 and had to remove the intake and all, there's a high likely hood something got disconnected. If it's a 4 cylinder, then that would not be that much of an issue, but at any rate, yes, agree with the above. Disconnect the battery for a bit to reset everything. Will it start or not? dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Does the Pentastar have a plastic intake manifold? If so, like the 3.7, you have to use the recommended plugs or carbon deposits will begin to build up and make havoc for a smooth running engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcbuckley05 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 It is a 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder. Fairly easy access to the plugs. I did disconnect a large multipin connection just left and back of the fuse box. Has a large red swing handle that disconnects it. I reconnected it right away but I'm not even sure what that is. Do any of you know what I'm talking about? It won't start at all. When I get in and press the brake and hit the start/stop, there's a brief clicking noise under the hood, the steering wheel display says to push the clutch pedal and press the start stop button. I get a "No BUS" message at the top of that display. The airbag light, gas light, check engine light all on. I have the neg terminal disconnected right now and will give it 15 minutes to see if that resets anything. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramfrank Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Do you have any remaining warranty? 2late4u and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Do you have any remaining warranty? best question so far........................................ dhh3 and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcbuckley05 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I don't think so. Bought it used last year from the Ford dealer. Not sure if there's a manufacture warranty on it still. It's at just shy of 62K miles. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 just another reason to let the experts do the work as cars are getting so complicated and expensive to repair now days.HOPE you find or get this fixed soon and cheap.... dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryl Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Maybe that connector was something that should not have been unplugged until the battery was disconnected ? dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfurth Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 The powertrain warranty is 5 years/100k miles, and it transfers to subsequent owners. This sounds more like it mivht end up being a TIPM problem. I have a bad feeling about that cable you unplugged. jkeaton and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramfrank Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 You have a powertrain warranty remaining, but the bumper to bumper component is expired. So, have you tried the battery disconnect/wait/reconnect yet? Did it help? Note that almost every procedure that involves electricity (even the disconnecting of the radio, for example) that one does on the DJ and on most modern vehicles begins with 'disconnect the battery'. With any luck all you've done is glitched a controller - and resetting the unit with the battery disconnect procedure would hopefully being it back. If not, this can become expensive, which is why I took an extended warranty for my vehicle. Among some suggestions that come immediately to mind if resetting does not resolve the problem are to take it to the dealer and do not tell them what you've done and hope that they can somehow get FCA to provide a goodwill warranty settlement or you might search eBay or contact an LKQ member scrapyard and try to get another module from the same model/engine/year as yours (the part number of the component will tell all) and hope that resolves the issue. A really quick check indicates that the TIPM modules go for between $90 and $650, and BCMs for between $50 and . . . . . more. dhh3 and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 A replacement TIPM also has to match the original, as far as options go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfurth Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 To add, I would not purchase a TIPM until I was 100% convinced that it is the TIPM, and I've had a dealer tell me that they are 100% convinced that it's a failed TIPM. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorGang Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 So i would like to ask. How did you solve this problem? dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, TaylorGang said: So i would like to ask. How did you solve this problem? Original poster has not been back since his original post last year. Who knows. Edited July 27, 2016 by jkeaton dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorGang Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Ok I started having the same issue yesterday and nothing worked. It's currently at the dealer now. They are all dumbfounded but don't seemed to be too surprised. When I find out the issue I will repost and update. Thanks! Edited July 27, 2016 by TaylorGang dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorGang Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 On 7/27/2016 at 7:41 AM, TaylorGang said: Ok I started having the same issue yesterday and nothing worked. It's currently at the dealer now. They are all dumbfounded but don't seemed to be too surprised. When I find out the issue I will repost and update. Thanks! They are telling me it's the PCM and that it will cost $1,100 US to replace any thoughts I can get it done cheaper? dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Have seen PCM's on ebay in the $300-500 range. Not sure if they are plug and play. dhh3 and TaylorGang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryl Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Sadly there a lot of dumbfounded dealers out there TaylorGang and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorGang Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 I found a refurbished one for $150 and I will put it in myself and have the dealer flash it. Savings of about $850 jkeaton and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorGang Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) So here we are almost 2 weeks later. I go the DJ fixed. They claim they cannot flash any used PCM at all as the VIN is hard coded for 2011 and up. I went on the dealer site and order the part for $435 and had them deliver it to themselves LOL. But some other things I wanted to share is that what I noticed before the DJ failed. Clock time would not stay accurate. Engine drag Shudder with driving and in reverse That lovely clunk when you accelerate at low speeds and abruptly release the gas. All of these things cease to exist anymore so these may be warnings for a pcm issue. I just wanted to share. Edited August 12, 2016 by TaylorGang dhh3 and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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