frankx47 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Looking to find out which fuse controls the visor lights in a 2012 Dodge Journey. Need to cut power to the lights so I can fix a wiring issue. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woah322 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Check the manual, has the diagram of the fuse box, or just disconnect the battery if you want to cut the power dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 What he said^^^^. You should always disconnect the battery when doing electrical work on today's airbag equipped vehicles. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankx47 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks for the info, however, I need to give more information. This all started when the passenger sun visor broke on my daughter's DJ. It literally fell off. She wanted me to look at it to see if it can be repaired. In order to determine if it could be repaired somehow, I had to remove the plastic bracket where the arm goes up into. Three screws and it came off. That is where the problem started. The wires supplying power to the lighted visor were severed when it fell off and they were severed up inside where I could not see prior to removing the bracket. The two severed wires touched in the process and began smoking at which time I disconnected the battery as quickly as I could. In that short amount of time the insulation around the two wires burned or melted off. While we can live without lighted sun visor mirrors I am afraid to start the car and drive it someplace to have this looked into as the wires are "live" and most likely touching due to lack of insulation up behind the head liner. A simple fix would be to pull the fuse that allows power to the visor so the car can be driven. The problem now is nowhere in the owners manual or on the fuse schematic printed on the fuse box covers is there an indication of which fuse it is. Could it be that there is no fuse for this circuit? Upon doing some research, I read where Chrysler has an issue with 2011-2014 Durangos and some Jeeps where there have been headliner fires due to shorts in wiring in that circuit and the article states there is no fuse protecting that circuit. Really? In hindsight I should have cut battery power before trying to remove the bracket but all I wanted to do was peek and see what I was dealing with. In some respects my daughter was lucky the wires did not touch and arc in the last few months as she was driving with the visor missing. What a mess. I am calling a Dodge Dealership today where I know a guy in hopes he can offer some help. I will post what I find out in case it helps somebody else. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hard to believe it burned to that point and did not blow a fuse. I curious as well what the dealer will say. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I am curious about the "no fuse" issue. The wires must be tiny not to be able to hold the weight of the sun visor. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankx47 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I am curious about the "no fuse" issue. The wires must be tiny not to be able to hold the weight of the sun visor. I am curious about the "no fuse" issue. The wires must be tiny not to be able to hold the weight of the sun visor. The wires are very small. With the help of a private repair shop, I got a wiring diagram that shows the circuit is controlled by a large 30A fuse. The wires must only support 5 or 10A so in effect the wires would be able to burn without tripping the fuse. That same fuse controls a bunch of stuff. Does not sound like a great design to me. Going to visit a dealer today. See what they say. My objective at this point is to cut the power to the visors and live without powered vanity lamps on the visors. No big deal. I am learning there may be either a junction or splice in the left A pillar that sends power to both mirrors. If no dealer will help that is plan B right now. Stay tuned. jkeaton and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I believe that there are air bags in the A pillars. Much to my surprise, I found them in my Nitro! jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankx47 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Here is an update on the Journey wiring issue with the passenger vanity mirror. Took car to local shop since warranty is expired for this matter. They were able to trace RH vanity mirror wiring back to where the insulation had not melted. Cut wire at that point and sealed up. Did not effect any other items. As a safety measure, they installed three 5 amp fuses off of the interior fuse box so that the Left vanity mirror lamp has it's own fuse now, the dome light and the glove box. So should there be an issue with any of these circuits in the future, it will pop the 5 amp fuse before burning any wiring up. Chrysler's original design with the only fuse in the system being a 30 amp under the hood for these circuits all combined is a weak design in my mind. My error of poking around looking at the RH visor bracket met up with a poor safety design causing me to spend some money but all is well that ends well. dhh3, jkeaton and rolly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woah322 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Maybe I missed it,but did the shop re-wire the vanity light to work again dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Thank you for posting your fix. A lot of people don't and just leave us hanging. jkeaton and rolly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankx47 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 One last thing. No, the shop did not rewire the passenger vanity light at my request. That would have added cost to the fix and yes, could have been done. They would have had to run new wire from about the middle of the headliner to the RH visor. We decided the cost to have a passenger vanity light did not outweigh the benefit. How often does one use that feature anyway? For us, not a big deal. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobitz68 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 One last thing. No, the shop did not rewire the passenger vanity light at my request. That would have added cost to the fix and yes, could have been done. They would have had to run new wire from about the middle of the headliner to the RH visor. We decided the cost to have a passenger vanity light did not outweigh the benefit. How often does one use that feature anyway? For us, not a big deal. Seems like every time my wife is in the car she uses the damn thing a dozen times... So in my case, it is used OFTEN. Bobcatlancer and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcatlancer Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sorry wanted to say, I am about to break that mirror right out so my wife won't use it. It is so annoying with the reflection of the outside while I am driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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