drjbg230 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) My last local shop (Kansas City rural suburb-private mechanic shop) forgot to call me to pick up my Journey after an oil change and they went home for the weekend. Next oil change I went to the next place in town (another local mechanic). I get a call after I dropped the car off that the oil change was going to be $60.00 "because of the oil filter". Nothing else, just an oil change. What? A Fram filter at Walmart is $8.15. Most shops charge $40 and some $30. The 10 minute places charge $19.99. Does the Journey require some special oil change that warrants a $60 service? Seems as though I should go back to doing it myself again or shop around a 3rd time. Edited January 25, 2016 by drjbg230 dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The oil filter is different, yes. You can buy them at most parts stores and even walmart. I think I pay @10 for one. They are not like other oil filters in that they are just the filter, not a metal case. It fits into a housing on the top of the engine. Now, how they can do away with the metal and charge more is beyond me, but that's why I do my own oil changes. I don't trust anyone besides the dealer and will only use them if I have a coupon. I have to ask though, why wouldn't you ask for a price upfront and not after? dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjbg230 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I did ask before I dropped the car off and they said it would be $40. Then he called me later. I told him I had a 5$ off coupon. He also said he would speak to the owner since I told him I'm within walking distance and I wanted to be a regular customer if he could work with me on the oil change price. So I chalked up the extra fee today to the convenience of getting the darn thing done and seeing whether this business will do the right thing and make me an offer that will be a win-win for both of us. I appreciate your response though- it motivated me take care of it myself next time if the shop doesn't coime back with a reasonable fee. jkeaton and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryl Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Buy a filter and take it with you jkeaton and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 I would not use a Fram filter for the cabin air let alone the oil filter. I won't use a Fram on my jeep that has 500000 kms on it either. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty256 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 I did ask before I dropped the car off and they said it would be $40. Then he called me later. I told him I had a 5$ off coupon. He also said he would speak to the owner since I told him I'm within walking distance and I wanted to be a regular customer if he could work with me on the oil change price. So I chalked up the extra fee today to the convenience of getting the darn thing done and seeing whether this business will do the right thing and make me an offer that will be a win-win for both of us. I appreciate your response though- it motivated me take care of it myself next time if the shop doesn't coime back with a reasonable fee. This is why I always change my own oil ... jkeaton and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Let's not get into the fram filter argument again. We've been through that. dhh3, OhareFred, 11journeybama and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 to be honest i've seen some places that charge more for their oil filter than what the dodge dealer charges for it. but either way shouldn't be more than $12. max also be careful about which oil filter they use, the 3.6 uses different filters depending on which year vehicle you have. quick change or small oil change places MAY not know this... check with your dodge dealership and they will show you the difference in them... my 2014 3.6 takes a different one than my 2011 3.6 did...... dhh3, jkeaton and Journey_SeXT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 My extended warranty came with free oil changes, so I have to rely on my Dealer doing it right! BTW, anyone know where the oil cooler is? I have never even seen my engine because I'm afraid of breaking something if I try to remove the "beauty" cover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecrazyfoo4u Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I always buy my Mopar oil filters on ebay in packs of 5 or 10 at a time. Usually end up paying about $4-5 a piece for them that way. Dealers and auto vendors sell them. If you guys are paying $10+ a piece for them, you're all getting ripped a new one... larryl, dhh3, 11journeybama and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I don't mind paying $10 maybe once a year. Depends on how often you change your oil I guess. QuarterSwede and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I always buy my Mopar oil filters on ebay in packs of 5 or 10 at a time. Usually end up paying about $4-5 a piece for them that way. Dealers and auto vendors sell them. If you guys are paying $10+ a piece for them, you're all getting ripped a new one... just checked ebay for 2014 3.6 oil filter cheapest was about $7.75 for 6 filters next deal figured out to 54.95 for 6 =$9. each ill just get mine at the dealer i pay about $8 with my discount. onecrazyfoo4u, jkeaton, 11journeybama and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Location of engine oil cooler: http://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/topic/7138-might-add-engine-oil-cooler-to-15-crossroad-what-do-i-need/ Thanks. I forgot about this thread. 11journeybama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecrazyfoo4u Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Man, inflation is a bitch. Glad I stocked up a couple years ago when I got the deal! jkeaton, larryl and dhh3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyh Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I do my oil changes using Mobil 1 and use the OEM filters I buy for around $24.00 a 3 pack. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neto Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Our 2009 still has the more common filter type. When did they change to the canister? (I know that way back pretty well all oil filters were the canister type, but that's been a good long while, something only the older folks will remember.) dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 yea i remember them, only thing different is back then you were on your back looking up now days your standing and looking down when changing that oil filter.... dhh3 and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Our 2009 still has the more common filter type. When did they change to the canister? (I know that way back pretty well all oil filters were the canister type, but that's been a good long while, something only the older folks will remember.) Still plenty of vehicles use the standard type oil filter. dhh3 and Journey_SeXT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neto Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 yea i remember them, only thing different is back then you were on your back looking up now days your standing and looking down when changing that oil filter.... On my 46 Plymouth the access is from the top. People used to complain about the mess it made when you pulled the filter element out of the canister. One of my Uncles had one that used a roll of TP as the filter. But back then an oil filter was an option, and if they did have one, it was a bypass filter, like on my Plymouth. (It would be inteesting to know how much of the oil goes through the bypass valve on the modern engines, and if & how much that changes as the miles since last filter change mounts.) dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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