bell Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I have a 2009 Dodge Journey 2.4L with 116K miles. I ran the codes and I had a random misfire code, crankshaft/camshaft positioning sensor code. Ive replace the sensors, spark plugs and coil packs a month ago when this first started, it ran great until 3 days ago. All the codes are back and it runs so rough and has so little power i cant even get it to the shop. Any and all help would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty256 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 when is the last time you cleaned the throttle body . what codes are you getting . jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 i have never cleaned the throttle body, and as far as the actual codes i don't know i take it to Oriellys and have them read it for me they said random misfire and crank/cam shaft sensor. Ive tried to get the codes from the dash board, switch car to on and off 3 times, but no code show up then it says done. Im at a loss for what it might be, ive talked to several mechanics and dealerships and no one can tell me what is wrong other than what the codes say. Someone suggested that it could be due to low fuel pressure? Any thouhgts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) As previously asked, what are the codes? Edited November 3, 2022 by jkeaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) As previously asked, what are the codes? Edited May 17, 2017 by jkeaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 i dont have the code numbers and right now it wont run well enough to drive so i cant take it to get the codes read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty256 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I would order a code reader online , the are cheap. Codes and definitions can be found on line and are a big help. Remember part stores are there to sell parts . Ibwpuld clean the throttle body , it is not that hard to get to and there are videos on u tube explaining how to take it off . Fuel pump will not set a code itself and you have to check fuel pressure on the rail. I would start by cleaning the throttle body . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Thanks Dusty256 I'll give that a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 I broke down and took it to the dealership, they said its the PCM thats bad and causing all the issues. Any place i should look to get one cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 HA! Now thats funny! A cheap PCM.... try the auto wrecker, maybe you get lucky. It wont be cheap though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Ive found them for about $250 online, the dealership quoted me $750! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Thats not a bad price at all. I was thinking $400 or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didge Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hi Bell any luck with the PCM? also is the car getting harder to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 i havent gotten it in yet, i ordered one from a company that will have it programmed before they send it, should be in this week, ill let you know how it goes 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo831 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Have you tried to replace the crankshaft sensor located in the back of engine it's easier to get through underneath. It will be behind a heat shield remove only 2 bolts from the shield pull away enough to get the crankshaft sensor out. It should only take about 20-30 mins to do. Replaced this on my friends 2.4L Avenger as well as his spark plugs and coil boots fixed his rough engine power loss Edited June 1, 2017 by Eduardo831 Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 10:22 AM, Eduardo831 said: Have you tried to replace the crankshaft sensor located in the back of engine it's easier to get through underneath. It will be behind a heat shield remove only 2 bolts from the shield pull away enough to get the crankshaft sensor out. It should only take about 20-30 mins to do. Replaced this on my friends 2.4L Avenger as well as his spark plugs and coil boots fixed his rough engine power loss Yes i replace i last month as well as all the spark plugs and coil packs, i broke down and took it to the dealership, partly because it had a recall anyways. they said it was the PCM and wanted to charge me $700 to replace it, i ordered one myself and it is supposed to come programmed. i will see if it fixes the problem it came in yesterday and i will try and get it swapped out this evening after work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris87 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hey did you ever figure out the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Chris87 said: Hey did you ever figure out the problem? This member you are asking has NOT BEEN ON since Jan of 2018 with NO REPORT BACK. I doubt they will reply to you here. Maybe you could start your own thread of YOUR problem, and give good specifics of symptoms/codes/and previous maint done to get responses to try and help YOU out. jkeaton and Chris87 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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